Question about federation

[Gromak]

Im in a federation with other 3 members and Im the strongest one. I would like to change the federation presidency to Strongest so I can remain president but all other 3 are voting no of course... Is there any way to ensure their votes or is that law impossible to pass?
Thanks.
Oh btw its a standard federation, Galactic Union

[Bloodartist]

Originally posted by Gromak:

Im in a federation with other 3 members and Im the strongest one. I would like to change the federation presidency to Strongest so I can remain president but all other 3 are voting no of course... Is there any way to ensure their votes or is that law impossible to pass?
Thanks.
Oh btw its a standard federation, Galactic Union

Improve your relations with them maybe? I mean that happens automatically as time passes and they are in the federation, doesn't it. You could also add envoys to the federation.

[Gromak]

Originally posted by Bloodartist:

Originally posted by Gromak:

Im in a federation with other 3 members and Im the strongest one. I would like to change the federation presidency to Strongest so I can remain president but all other 3 are voting no of course... Is there any way to ensure their votes or is that law impossible to pass?
Thanks.
Oh btw its a standard federation, Galactic Union

Improve your relations with them maybe? I mean that happens automatically as time passes and they are in the federation, doesn't it. You could also add envoys to the federation.

Envoys only add cohesion and that doesnt have anything to do with laws acceptance afaik. And I have max relations with all of them :S

[Garatgh Deloi]

If you are stronger then the three of them combined you could try to change vote'ing to diplomatic (Your diplomatic weight decides how much of a vote you get).

[Mansen]

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

If you are stronger then the three of them combined you could try to change vote'ing to diplomatic (Your diplomatic weight decides how much of a vote you get).

Depends entirely on what the law for voting is set to. There is also the option for "everybody gets a single vote".

[Jaded]

Having maxed cohesion seemed to change the support given to different laws for me. Could have just coincided with some other change though.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

I have run into this at a well. I made myself forever president of my federation(bidding war succession + largest galactic megacorp) and now no one will accept any federation fleet of any kind. I've found nothing that can change this

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Mansen:

Originally posted by Garatgh Deloi:

If you are stronger then the three of them combined you could try to change vote'ing to diplomatic (Your diplomatic weight decides how much of a vote you get).

Depends entirely on what the law for voting is set to. There is also the option for "everybody gets a single vote".

That is why i said he should try changing the law for vote'ing (if he have enough diplomatic weight) to diplomatic... (Doing so makes diplomatic weight decide how much of a vote you get, as mentioned)...

[Mansen]

And as I pointed out... if you're on equal votes, you're not going to be able to do that.

[tempest.of.emptiness]

Can you use favors to influence how they vote? I haven't been in a position to try.

[Garatgh Deloi]

Originally posted by Mansen:

And as I pointed out... if you're on equal votes, you're not going to be able to do that.

Worked fine for me. From my experience (admittedly limited, 2 games were this has happened thus far) the AI tend to vote yes for changing to diplomatic weight voting even if they have a much lower diplomatic weight then you and vote no on all the other stuff (So they basically flip themselves over :P). But perhaps i was just lucky.

Originally posted by tempest.of.emptiness:

Can you use favors to influence how they vote? I haven't been in a position to try.

As far as i know you can only use favors in the galactic community, when trading or trying to make pacts (like research pacts, or forming a new federation) with them, not in federation law votes.

[Mansen]

It all depends on your cohesion and how well your empire ethics match up.

[kukuMajster]

I was trying to increase centralization in my federation as President (of hegemony), and everyone (6 civs) were against it. So i sent envoys (7 of them) to the federation HQ, boosting federation experiance, and a moment later i was able to proceed with a succesfull vote. all members vote for the change.
But its not like i am able to vin vote for every law now. Did anyone have similar experiance in sending envoys and chaneging the outcome of a vote?