The WORM! *SPOILERS*

[Shot]

Ok so basically I just wanted to kinda clarify a few things about this questline now that I completed it and I tried looking for others and none of them really got into it and just sorta beat around the bush and went worm love, which I get I mean I loved the questline and didn't want to ruin it for others either so I didn't ask my very spoilerific questions.

*SPOILERS*

1. First question, ok so the person who came from the future, or the past or whenever and was all crazy pants and I blew up (not sure if there was another way) was one of my generals and after I killed her using herself she gained a perk that was foredoomed to a rendezouv and it gives her +25% sublight speed. So I'm pretty sure i've finished the quest line and I'm curious if I should go out of my way to keep her alive or what.

2. So I don't know if this happened to everyone else when they went worm love but I went the whole worm love route and it became 7 tomb planets in my home system of all 18-25 size and my race I let become all retrovirused into the genetics of what we found off of said person from the future or past or whatever... so my entire race becomes 80+ long lived repugnant looking freaky buggers that have tombworld preference which basically means I can live anywhere and my race is the cockroachs of the galaxy... how is killing the worm better for the tech? seems like a one sided choice or does the choice to love the worm end badly sometimes?

P.S I should note that after the whole worm love route I went genetics and evolution mastery and ended up with a race of Tombworld, Vernerable, Erudite, Talented, Strong people... frankly I don't think it could have worked out much better... at this point I'm finding it harder not to nuke the rest of the worlds into glass with bombardment and conquer everything buuuuuuut I was trying for federation this time.

[cooltv27]

Originally posted by Shot:

buuuuuuut I was trying for federation this time.

you can go for federations in any play though, its not often you get the chance to turn every world into a radioactive paradise for species of worm loving crazies. embrace the opportunity you have been given, what was will be, what will be was

[utilityguy]

Originally posted by Shot:

So I'm pretty sure i've finished the quest line and I'm curious if I should go out of my way to keep her alive or what.

There aren't any more special questlines for that Fleet Officer after the Foredoomed thing.

Originally posted by Shot:

how is killing the worm better for the tech? seems like a one sided choice or does the choice to love the worm end badly sometimes?

The worm does not actively try to ruin your empire if you accept its love. Some argue that Saying no to the worm is worth it if you don't want your species portrait to change, but you can do that by never starting/finishing the Messenger Questline.

Originally posted by Shot:

at this point I'm finding it harder not to nuke the rest of the worlds into glass with bombardment and conquer everything buuuuuuut I was trying for federation this time.

You can always opt to turn every world into a Gaia world, which give a pop production bonus. But you first need to terraform tomb worlds into something else, before you can change it into a Gaia world.

[Shot]

Originally posted by utilityguy:

Originally posted by Shot:

So I'm pretty sure i've finished the quest line and I'm curious if I should go out of my way to keep her alive or what.

There aren't any more special questlines for that Fleet Officer after the Foredoomed thing.

The worm does not actively try to ruin your empire if you accept its love. Some argue that Saying no to the worm is worth it if you don't want your species portrait to change, but you can do that by never starting/finishing the Messenger Questline.

world.

Well good to know about the officer, also you can change your species portrait using genetics after unlocking the second ascension perk.

+ if you choose no at the end and kill worm as it comes out it only gives you a research bonus... its a meh reward in my opinion.

[Nolo Contendere]

WHAT WAS WILL BE WHAT WILL BE WAS


edit: plus, you kinda have to have a fleet that can take on a dimensional horror........i generally dont have that kind of fleet because i be a scrub.

[Hat8]

Its kinda a mystery. Cosmic horrors tend to have that problem.

[ඞ]

Question, how does the Worm affect Hive Minds? Isn't there a part of the questline where when you accept the scientist's thing and change your species your ethics also change? So would hiveminds only get the portrait change and not the ethics change?(I wouldnt know as I killed the scientist and destroyed the research before embracing the worm). Also, wouldn't Hiveminds with Tomb World Preference be *Really* Op as they have no happiness modifier from wrong planet type and TW preference gives 60% habitability on all planet types(besides the usual 100% for Gaia)?

[Shot]

no the ethics don't get affected as far as I know my people are a rational consensus and they've stayed a rational consensus

just makes you look like slug people with a big head so you get the grotesque trait but as I said the power of genetics and bingo bango... my people are amazing-o

[Exanthos]

WHAT WAS WILL BE WHAT WILL BE WAS

When I did the love rout, my ethics did a complete 180 and I went from fanatic pacifist xenophobes to fanatic militarist...something (probably xenophobes still). I was going for the seclusionist habitat builders to rush the win, but the ethics shift inspired me to use my massive stores of minerals and rediculously fortified borders (40k+ space ports with maxed out defense platform capability through ascension perks) to expand outward and take the habitable planets by force to win.

BTW: For your #1 question, since I was fanatic pacifist, I convinced the admiral from the future to not fight and he ended up killing himself, and my actual admiral was pretty chill with it.
My species was already invested in gene engineering, so I had to spend a couple years remodifying my 500+ pops to be utterly perfect.
And when you choose not to love the worm, it turns into a dimentional horror in your home system, that's all I know. I think you get a permanent research boost too, and it kills your home planet.

[Gibbles]

I don't know what happens if you let the worm do its own thing in your home system after rejecting it, but you can kill it and get 5k minerals, energy and unity iirc.

[utilityguy]

Originally posted by D e s p a c i t o:

Question, how does the Worm affect Hive Minds?

You can not get the Worm in Waiting event change, if you are a Gestalt Consciousness.

[videomike_Ultimate_Plushie]

Wait, did you actually make that thing work? It's been glitched in my game since....well forever as far as I know.

[Shot]

Originally posted by Gibbles:

I don't know what happens if you let the worm do its own thing in your home system after rejecting it, but you can kill it and get 5k minerals, energy and unity iirc.

It loves us and we loved it... ahem as I said when I chose yes, it came out and then became 7 Habitable tomb planets in my home system... and that was it... I was cool with the grotesque and picture change + all that because hell when you can live in nuked out worlds you can live anywhere.

It didn`t change my goverment... we chose to love it and we chose the afteraffects... so still a rational consensus.

Originally posted by videomike_Ultimate_Plushie:

Wait, did you actually make that thing work? It's been glitched in my game since....well forever as far as I know.

Yes, it seems fixed I started a brand spanky new game as a super explorer because of the distant stars thing