Fleet Manager and Federation Fleets

[Guard Players be Like]

I am not able to edit Federation fleets in the Fleet Manager, or even build the things, I've never played with Federation fleets before the update so I dont know if this is a 2.0 thing or just federations being a "only the AI can do it" thing.

[DrUltraLux]

Federation ships just build and directly go and join the federation fleet. You can only have one federation fleet.
So make them manually at your ship yards like you used to in 1.9

AI auto-applies weird templates to them though when the AI becomes Federation leader. So they are a little messed up right now.

[DrUltraLux]

You can still design federation ships in the federation button at the bottom right of the screen on the fleets tab.

[Sentinel]

When You rename the fleet it might apear in the fleet manager (it was in my case). But it's really broken e.g. if you design two types of BS (one long range, one mid/carrier) and both are configured in the fleet, you get an upgrade-symbol and one kind will be upgraded to the other kind. For example, 3 long range, 3 carrier...after built -> upgrade and the long range will be transformed to carrier...so you have 6/3 and 0/3 and can reorder the long-range one...it's so bugged, I ended with a 92/70 fleet which will ask for update, but stuck at 0%, when you actually perform the update.

[DrUltraLux]

It currently only looks for hull sections and will match your ships to the last updated hull section configuration of the same ship type.

So select different hull sections in your different designs and it keeps them seperate.

I tend to have for corvettes 1 torpedo/missile and 1 picket for example. Game keeps them seperate no problems.

[SpiritRetro]

okay so first off, a federation has a rotating leadership, and only a federations leader can design build and command federation ships, a federation also acts as a formal alliance and often cements the support of ai, they will also typically set their fleets to follow yours once they meet up.

federation ship designs have access to the best technology of all members, this is a significant advantage, especially if you have a empire that excels in tech but falls back in navy as your alliance as you get access to weapons and defenses your own empire doesnt.

e.g my current games federation has access to my UV lazers and ripper autoguns as well as my allies IV coil guns and antimatter missels as well as the shields and thrusters form an ally both at grade III

[PyroSaphuron]

This aspect of the game is completely broken and unusable right now truth be told. You can't retrofit their stupid ships into your own better designs anymore because they'll change the hull on you and make your design incompatible. The option won't even show up on any screen. Basically the only way to have a decent Federation Fleet is to scrap the whole thing and rebuild it from scratch every time you're President. It's dumb, and even after a couple years, the devs haven't bothered to even try to fix this.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Originally posted by Khrystal Thorne | gamekit.com:

This aspect of the game is completely broken and unusable right now truth be told. You can't retrofit their stupid ships into your own better designs anymore because they'll change the hull on you and make your design incompatible. The option won't even show up on any screen. Basically the only way to have a decent Federation Fleet is to scrap the whole thing and rebuild it from scratch every time you're President. It's dumb, and even after a couple years, the devs haven't bothered to even try to fix this.

You do realize that one of the updates that is coming is going to be focused on diplomacy and federations, right? Why don't you do some research before you start bashing things you don't know anything about.

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Originally posted by Demon_of_Razgriz:

Originally posted by Khrystal Thorne | gamekit.com:

This aspect of the game is completely broken and unusable right now truth be told. You can't retrofit their stupid ships into your own better designs anymore because they'll change the hull on you and make your design incompatible. The option won't even show up on any screen. Basically the only way to have a decent Federation Fleet is to scrap the whole thing and rebuild it from scratch every time you're President. It's dumb, and even after a couple years, the devs haven't bothered to even try to fix this.

You do realize that one of the updates that is coming is going to be focused on diplomacy and federations, right? Why don't you do some research before you start bashing things you don't know anything about.

Because it's been like this for literally years.
Yes, good changes have been prommised and will happen at sometime.
However these changes should have been part of the orgional implimentation, and repeated requests to have Fed fleets fixed have been ignored over the past few years (or never actioned on).

Next update is heavily focussed on trade btw. No eta for any of the other ones.

[Oblivion]

The thread is dead, but since the OP never got a correct answer, you must be the federation leader/president to access the fleet designs

[DrUltraLux]

Originally posted by Knights Hospitallers:

The thread is dead, but since the OP never got a correct answer, you must be the federation leader/president to access the fleet designs

Was literally my second response in here.

Originally posted by Gaiyamato:

You can still design federation ships in the federation button at the bottom right of the screen on the fleets tab.

Also they have cleaned up Federation ship designs a lot over the last couple of big patches. When you are fed leader you can design decent ships more easily and the AI keeps your designs when control moves over to them (if you are in a fed with AI).

It would be nice to have federations get a huge overhaul on virtually all areas though. Being able to install a single race as a "dictator" or have proper councils, appoint one player as the fleet admiral or something, appoint a federation chancellor etc.
The whole government, civics, alliances and diplomacy in general also needs to be overhauled a lot.

[Demon of Razgriz]

Originally posted by Gaiyamato:

Originally posted by Knights Hospitallers:

The thread is dead, but since the OP never got a correct answer, you must be the federation leader/president to access the fleet designs

Was literally my second response in here.

Originally posted by Gaiyamato:

You can still design federation ships in the federation button at the bottom right of the screen on the fleets tab.

Also they have cleaned up Federation ship designs a lot over the last couple of big patches. When you are fed leader you can design decent ships more easily and the AI keeps your designs when control moves over to them (if you are in a fed with AI).

It would be nice to have federations get a huge overhaul on virtually all areas though. Being able to install a single race as a "dictator" or have proper councils, appoint one player as the fleet admiral or something, appoint a federation chancellor etc.
The whole government, civics, alliances and diplomacy in general also needs to be overhauled a lot.

It is one of the updates they are doing, no eta on it though, but it will focus on the diplomacy.

[Hinduhobo]

Originally posted by Demon of Razgriz:

Originally posted by Khrystal Thorne | gamekit.com:

This aspect of the game is completely broken and unusable right now truth be told. You can't retrofit their stupid ships into your own better designs anymore because they'll change the hull on you and make your design incompatible. The option won't even show up on any screen. Basically the only way to have a decent Federation Fleet is to scrap the whole thing and rebuild it from scratch every time you're President. It's dumb, and even after a couple years, the devs haven't bothered to even try to fix this.

You do realize that one of the updates that is coming is going to be focused on diplomacy and federations, right? Why don't you do some research before you start bashing things you don't know anything about.

Hows that update going almost 2024? LOL. Completley broken and the regular fleet manager is CRAP too. We need to be able to manually order things and override things. Just simply allowing me to raise or lower the place in the outlier where my fleets are above or below other fleets would DRASTICALLY help. Also reinforcing is broken too. I LOVE this game and don’t complain about the issues, I overlook ALOT of issues and my biggest pet peave is the regular fleet manager, which makes fed fleet manager WAY worse. They are both TERRIBLE and the UI is ♥♥♥♥ too although I use a mod for that.

The devs have said they will the-work things for a DECADE now and still nothing. Just new species and story packs which add more issues into it. And I LOVE this game, I play it all the time but the organization in the menus is completely annoying and difficult. There is ALOT of changes needed to this game.