Raiding Fleets

[Henrydxb]

So im 55 years into a game and i have a 6.5k pirate fleet destroying all my outposts and was wondering if anyone else was seeing how unbalanced this is.

[DS]

Marauders are a big problem.

There are like 4 types of them - screeching one, ugly ones, etc and only one of those types has an option to buy them off.
Marauders send fleets of 8-12k worth - which are impossible to defend agaisnt at early game. So, 'having a decent fleet with good admiral' doesn't help even a slightest.

[Henrydxb]

Spirit could i ask what ui that is from your latest screenshot?

[Feddy]

I like to bribe them to attack others so that they leave me alone. Works out very well.

[Selgald]

Its broken, I got 20k stacks thrown at me til I stopped playing this savegame. It was fighting without any breaks and the AI clearly insta spawed fleets in.
I disabled them for now.

[DeadlyAlbatross]

Well, I found them really annoying, but the most annoying thing about them was the fact that it was actually far cheaper to rebuild what they wrecked than maintain an equal-strength fleet. And then I formed a federation and my fedmates started squashing them.
Way to go, Paradox, way to go.

[Spirit]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Henrydxb:

Spirit could i ask what ui that is from your latest screenshot?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1129879777&searchtext=dominion
this one

[Swagmaster Love 🇪🇺]

Has anyone ever considered paying them off / not fighting them early on and letting them have their raid?

No? You waste 8k minerals in a pointless fight instead?
Okay.

[NexionSE of the Cm.G.]

or you can just pay them in food and keep them off your back

[Ghostwind]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mercy:

Has anyone ever considered paying them off / not fighting them early on and letting them have their raid?

No? You waste 8k minerals in a pointless fight instead?
Okay.

i only got one time from six times a message from the marauder to pay them off for 500 energy ... instant a second message opened where i had to pay 1000 energy.

i paid for both and they raided.

so it doesnt worked for me.

[Swagmaster Love 🇪🇺]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Ghostwind:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mercy:

Has anyone ever considered paying them off / not fighting them early on and letting them have their raid?

No? You waste 8k minerals in a pointless fight instead?
Okay.

i only got one time from six times a message from the marauder to pay them off for 500 energy ... instant a second message opened where i had to pay 1000 energy.

i paid for both and they raided.

so it doesnt worked for me.

There's also the rather annoying occurence where the marauders physically move towards their target through your empire.

In that scenario you dont get a say in the matter as youre not their target and you get roflstomped as a snack on the go.

I'd prefer a kind of paid truce like paying them 8k energy credits for "Leave me alone for 5 years, okay?"

[Ghostwind]

i would prefer that paradox would do more testing before they bring an bugged version live.

8k in 5 years means min. 133 earned energy monthly

[Teagan]

I agree the marauders make normal play impossible. In my game at around year 2120 there was never not a marauder fleet destroying my ♥♥♥♥. Also didn't help that I spawned right next to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. It crippled me so much that for the first time since I had Stellaris I just gave up.

[Dogtown1]

I also find that AI empires are scared to death to attack each other for fear they will get a paid for retaliation strike from the doomsday marauders fleet

makes the game kinda boring as nobody is fighting

[Serafine]

The main issue is not the resource grind in early game the main issue is the absolutely mindbogglingly stupid tech/tradition cost increase that makes it impossible to expand AND tech up - you either end with a tiny territory guarded by a tiny fleet that just gets walked over or a medium-sized fleet with tech that is so crap that even a marauder fleet half the size will wipe the floor with it. There's a mod that reduces system penalty by 75% though, that one helps a lot.

[Icelus]

I my last game I've got really lucky, the pirates keep spawning behind a choke point that had the star devourer in it.