Stellaris vs Master of Orion 2

[phasensanskar]

23 Years Later the Master in Singel Player Gaming in a 4X Game is Master of Orion 2. Why? Resaching of Warships and Weapons sorry but Stellaris is in this Theme only for Kids (3-5) years not more. Why it give not a powerful weponarie research pack? 10 Weapons for Ship Battling? lol sorry. Programmer please play the Original Master of Orion 2 thats 4X . I want more Tech for my Ships after 23 Years a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Gibbon has realising the ♥♥♥♥.

[vkobe]

because in 2019 video game need nice graphic ^_^

so only text and picture is only good in 90s

so if your video game weight is less than one GB in 2019 it will be only a very small indy video game :^(

so master of orion 2 need a remake and increase its weight to at least 10 GB ^_^

and off course current video game are for kid of 3-5 years, you expect a granny granpa video game will be success in 2019 ?

so master of orion 2 is good for elderly people like you, because it is not too fast and it is more old school than modern school ^_^

[suksas]

nice bait

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by suksas:

nice bait

He's a master at it.

[Nightskies]

You had to say that, didn't you? He got what he wanted, now there's a little mess to clean up.

[Azunai]

moo2 was awesome back then. if i were to play it now, i'd consider it complete garbage. and rigthfully so. itt was full of poorly designed game mechanics and the thing people keep praising the most (the ship designs/tactical combat) was geared towards giving the human player silly advantages while the AI bots useless crap ships.

felt good to "outsmart" the computer back then as a teenager. i think i played the remake for about 5 hours or so before i dropped it for good.

moo 2 is a great game when you look at it through rose tinted nostalgia glasses. leave it at that.

[Jeffreyac]

What I remember most was the first to get Enveloping Plasma weaponry generally won... :)

Still, love Moo2 and strongly disagree with the whole 'old games are crap' vibe. Got thousands of hours playing Civilization games, still play Civ IV as my favorite iteration, and it's way old. Come to think of it, have Moo2 on this computer (through Steam) though to be fair haven't played it in ages (if ever. Last play may have been outside of steam, and a long time ago...)

Thinking about it makes me miss Master of Magic, too.

[Fugitive Utopian]

you can get master of magic in all its glory on gog

[Fugitive Utopian]

I have played M.o.M. in the last year!
;)

[Claus]

Master of Orion 2 by far, i can't even recognize Stellaris anymore, they tried to make the game different by revamping FTL and the planet grids and ended up with something worse.

I prefer the old system where i could pick my FTL method and play around with grids, good mechanics if you ask me.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by Jeffreyac:

What I remember most was the first to get Enveloping Plasma weaponry generally won... :)

Still, love Moo2 and strongly disagree with the whole 'old games are crap' vibe. Got thousands of hours playing Civilization games, still play Civ IV as my favorite iteration, and it's way old. Come to think of it, have Moo2 on this computer (through Steam) though to be fair haven't played it in ages (if ever. Last play may have been outside of steam, and a long time ago...)

Thinking about it makes me miss Master of Magic, too.

they are not crap we respect them, but in 2019 it is not really a recipe for success with current technology, in 2019 master of orion need more than only text and pictures and 90s video game music

so it need a big remake, bigger than what resident evil 2, yakuza kiwami, final fantasy 7 get if you want a 2019 or more likely a 2020 master of orion become success

remember than technology gap between master of orion and stellaris is bigger than between civ 4 and civ 6

[Hal_Emeric]

The "updates" they have made to Stellaris are unacceptable. The game has been un-playable since 1.9.2 and, frankly, your updates have made it worse. Even that would be forgivable if an option to revert had been included. I will not be buying another of your products.

[Stormsong]

Originally posted by Hal_Emeric:

Even that would be forgivable if an option to revert had been included

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https://steamcommunity.com/app/281990/discussions/0/1732087825007991514/

[Hal_Emeric]

I am not linking my account to paradox for a game I bought, played, and own through steam. I'm more likely to seek a legal council.

[Jeffreyac]

OK. You don't like it does not equal unplayable. Sorry you're not a fan - I'm enjoying the heck out of it.

I'll grant you this isn't likely to be one of the games that I'll still be playing in 4 or 5 years - I think once I get used to the mechanics, it'll fade away for me. But I'm already approaching 200 hours, and I will easily get another couple hundred hours - and a game that I can play for 4 or 5 hundred hours is a win in my book.

So, again, sorry you personally don't like it. But that doesn't mean it's unplayable, or that it's a failure. It means you don't like it - hey, not all games are for all people. No need to be dramatic about it - you just don't like it.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by Azunai:

moo2 was awesome back then. if i were to play it now, i'd consider it complete garbage. and rigthfully so. itt was full of poorly designed game mechanics and the thing people keep praising the most (the ship designs/tactical combat) was geared towards giving the human player silly advantages while the AI bots useless crap ships.

felt good to "outsmart" the computer back then as a teenager. i think i played the remake for about 5 hours or so before i dropped it for good.

moo 2 is a great game when you look at it through rose tinted nostalgia glasses. leave it at that.

I still play it, it is simple enough to be fun and complicated enough to be interesting. If you were taking the remake as the benchmark, then it is obvious why you would think that way.

Ion cannon or tractor beam the enemy immobile, neutron cannon the marines to death, then send in the boarders lol. And pray the quantum detonator does not go off.

@Jeffreyac

You might. They change the mechanics massively every year or so. Give them another year and you probably won't recognize the game, which is part of why people are annoyed. The other part is that these patches tend to break things which is why there is a group of "If it ain't broken DON'T FIX IT!!!" fans being very annoyed since their game was ticking along fine until something got "improved" aka broke.