No Control Over Federation Fleet Makeup

[BudaKhan]

My federation mate is flooding the fleet with corvettes. Regardless of enemies in between the Fed Fleet and production. Endless alarms. Have I done something wrong besides entering into a federation? The game is getting worse over time, not better. Stuff that used to function, is a pain in the ass now.

[BudaKhan]

Man... I've hardly played in the past year and the changes at first seemed awesome. But now that I'm playing more and getting into the late game stuff, it's clear the game has been broken... badly. Previously functional things like control over fleet makeup, or just keeping federation ships up to date with the latest technologies has become manual labor, not optional. It would appear that at this time, they devs have set goals that are loftier than their abilities.

[BudaKhan]

Just to clarify, I have no control over the makeup of the fleet because the AI keeps over-maxxing out the fleet limit. Can't add battleships. I feel like I'm missing something, except I know this way USED TO WORK.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

Originally posted by BudaKhan:

It would appear that at this time, they devs have set goals that are loftier than their abilities.

That is pretty much true all the time.
All there games suffer from good idea, poor exicution.

As for your question.
Federation is more usefull in multiplayer.
It used to be that having the federation fleet in fleet management effected what ships the ai send.
These days i believe that the ai simply lacks the means to build anything higher then corvette's for a long time.
From my experiance most players up the difficulty just so the ai can keep up with the player development using cheats.

As a general rule:
Ai you conquer or vassalage.
Federation are for players and roleplayers.

[BudaKhan]

Pretty incredible that a game that used to be fun to play isn't any more. Maybe it was just my ignorance.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by BudaKhan:

Pretty incredible that a game that used to be fun to play isn't any more. Maybe it was just my ignorance.

federation was never fun to play.

as for the fleet, try disbanding some ships while the game is paused and queuing up some ships you want.

[stupid sexy flanders]

Originally posted by Meewec:

federation was never fun to play.

as for the fleet, try disbanding some ships while the game is paused and queuing up some ships you want.

While this works, it makes federation fleet management a pain in the butt.

I recently played xenophile and found myself president of a large federation. At first it was great because the AI members were quite aggressive and happy to start wars with pretty much anyone. But then this damn fleet thing made it a massive pain. I set the make-up of the federation fleet that I wanted with destroyer and cruiser designs in the fleet manager, but the stupid AI members just kept pumping out vast amounts of corvettes. I had to keep disbanding them and making the larger ships myself.

Pah. Back to my usual PURGE THE XENO FILTH approach it is then.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by stupid sexy flanders:

Pah. Back to my usual PURGE THE XENO FILTH approach it is then.

purge or incorporate into your empire is the way to go. only time i use federation is when playing with my friend and she lets me handle the federation fleet design and composition

[BudaKhan]

I NEED THE FED VICTORY ACHIEVEMENT hehe

[omnius]

Originally posted by BudaKhan:

Just to clarify, I have no control over the makeup of the fleet because the AI keeps over-maxxing out the fleet limit. Can't add battleships. I feel like I'm missing something, except I know this way USED TO WORK.

BudaKhan,
I parked my Federation Fleet at my main shipyard and built Federation battleships that dropped right into the Federation Fleet. Make sure that you pick the actual Federation Battleship selection and not your own. You'll find every ship class has a Federation selection as well as your own. If you've got trade going then all of those seemingly worthless Federation corvettes make excellent pirate patrols, thus freeing up your ships for combat. This was in 2.27, I'm playing a cyborgs and robots empire with no trade and no need for corvettes and won't be forming any Federations.

The whole pirate function is garbage, way too pathetically programmed to want to play with. If you put dedicated patrol fleets in star systems with major pirate activity they actually do nothing to reduce the pirate's take, complete unrealistic rubbish. You have to wait fore the pirates to make a fleet and attack a system before you can trash them and reduce their haul. I hope they give us the option to not play with their garbage pirate function.