I'm negative influence?

[Wobbin Wiwwiams]

My influence suddenly stopped coming at any rate, and I ended up having negative influence. The main one seemed to be "Base -3"... the ♥♥♥♥ is "Base"? am I losing influence for having an empire in general?
Just had to load 30 years into the past because my economy went from +100 energy and +everything else to negative 90 in everything, from what I can only see as pure magic.
I'm rather new to this game and its ♥♥♥♥♥♥ me around for 15 hours, where I'll lose my empires I've spent hours on, to my economy just completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ITSELF, for no apparent reason. I had amazing trade value! My home system itself had 34 trade! then it just DIED and went to like 10... Anyone got any ideas as to why? some tips for me to stop sucking ass?

[Meewec]

first off, are you using any mods?

for influence are you promoting or supressing any factions? that eats into your influence quite a bit.

as for trade, the value fluctuates with stability so if your planet has low stability that could account for that or if all your jobs producing trade value are not being unworked that can cause it too. also any pirates spawned on the trade route will kill all trade from that trade route until you deal with the pirates

[Wobbin Wiwwiams]

Originally posted by Meewec:

first off, are you using any mods?

for influence are you promoting or supressing any factions? that eats into your influence quite a bit.

as for trade, the value fluctuates with stability so if your planet has low stability that could account for that or if all your jobs producing trade value are not being unworked that can cause it too. also any pirates spawned on the trade route will kill all trade from that trade route until you deal with the pirates

Yeah I did notice my trade routes getting some pirate attention but I sorted it by patroling a few ships along the paths.I was promoting most of my factions, all in about 70-75% range of support.
My planets had a stability around 50-65% that rarely seemed to go up or down, well, until my economy crashed and most of my planets went to 20% or less stability. I recovered most of their stability after 5 years, but it didn't seem to do anything for my incredibly high losses.

I thought promoting the factions made them give me more influence? or am I misunderstanding something

Also no I'm not using any mods, I've only got a DLC which is Utopia
Cheers for the comment btw

[uni790]

Promoting or surpressing factions costs you influance(as the tooltip says), it's only there to try and get rid of unfavorable ones.

[Wobbin Wiwwiams]

Originally posted by uni790:

Promoting or surpressing factions costs you influance(as the tooltip says), it's only there to try and get rid of unfavorable ones.

aw ♥♥♥♥
thats probably where all my influence went.. I must've misread a tip

[Meewec]

Originally posted by Wobbin Wiwwiams:

I thought promoting the factions made them give me more influence? or am I misunderstanding something

promoting or supressing cost influence, it affects the attractiveness of the faction to your population. to increase the influence gained from factions you have to take care of their wants. the little green/yellow/red circles on the faction. if you hover over each one it'll tell you what exactly they want and then you can decide if you want to give that to them or not.

[Wobbin Wiwwiams]

Originally posted by Meewec:

Originally posted by Wobbin Wiwwiams:

I thought promoting the factions made them give me more influence? or am I misunderstanding something

promoting or supressing cost influence, it affects the attractiveness of the faction to your population. to increase the influence gained from factions you have to take care of their wants. the little green/yellow/red circles on the faction. if you hover over each one it'll tell you what exactly they want and then you can decide if you want to give that to them or not.

Yeah I was giving most of them what they wanted so nearly all of them were happy, its just.. is there a way to STOP promoting them? I didn't see an option to do it >_>

[Meewec]

should be on the factions screen, click on the one you're promoting and you should have an option to stop. at work right now so can't look up the exact spot to do it

[Wobbin Wiwwiams]

Originally posted by Meewec:

should be on the factions screen, click on the one you're promoting and you should have an option to stop. at work right now so can't look up the exact spot to do it

Alright I'll give it a shot. Cheers for the advice, especially while being at work xD

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Wobbin Wiwwiams:

Originally posted by Meewec:

promoting or supressing cost influence, it affects the attractiveness of the faction to your population. to increase the influence gained from factions you have to take care of their wants. the little green/yellow/red circles on the faction. if you hover over each one it'll tell you what exactly they want and then you can decide if you want to give that to them or not.

Yeah I was giving most of them what they wanted so nearly all of them were happy, its just.. is there a way to STOP promoting them? I didn't see an option to do it >_>

Fulfilling their demands isn't the same as promoting.
Promoting is spending influence to increase their ethics attractiveness, supressing is spending influence to decrease their attractiveness, meeting their demands increases their influence production

[Radiosity]

Originally posted by Wobbin Wiwwiams:

"Base -3"... the ♥♥♥♥ is "Base"? am I losing influence for having an empire in general?

Base means the base level of influence you get before any modifiers from factions, research agreements, and the like.

[Wobbin Wiwwiams]

Thanks for the advice everyone! I just managed to survive a lot longer, but ended up getting war declared on me and getting 3 way gangbanged, lost all my destroyers and nearly my home, i was severely outmatched even with my best technology ;~;

[alexvyd]

Originally posted by Radiosity:

Originally posted by Wobbin Wiwwiams:

"Base -3"... the ♥♥♥♥ is "Base"? am I losing influence for having an empire in general?

Base means the base level of influence you get before any modifiers from factions, research agreements, and the like.

Radiosity, hi
How can I change the negative Base influence?
By the way I just canceled mutual protection pact with 3 races and they canceled research and trade pact as answer (((

[SilentDeath777]

Originally posted by alexvy:

Originally posted by Radiosity:

Base means the base level of influence you get before any modifiers from factions, research agreements, and the like.

Radiosity, hi
How can I change the negative Base influence?
By the way I just canceled mutual protection pact with 3 races and they canceled research and trade pact as answer (((

All of that also has a cost in Influence so yeah managemend isn't exactly easy.

[Black Ram]

It cost influence to fx. promote factions, WHICH THE GAME SHOULD TELL US WHEN WE HOLD OVER THE OPTION, BUT IT DOES NOT.

[vindicator]

Yeah -2 influence for boost which is directly affect base income.