Psionic Theory + Materialist

[Nightmyre]

Just a note since I was searching for this the other day. As others have noted, there's a few ways you can get this, but they all pretty much center around either getting a leader with the Psionic trait, or getting a pop with the Psionic or Latent Psionic trait.

Well - there is one other way. The Zroni precursor chain automatically grants you the ability to research Psionic Theory.

So, if you're not playing for achievements (IE, you can use mods), you can get the mod which lets you choose your precursor chain for the game, and then choose the Zroni precursor chain.

That will guarantee you the ability to get Psionic as Materialist.

**edit: mod is here, not sure why it removed my link?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1780597499

[Seaghauwn]

orr if you dont want that mod:

Survey Ocean worlds (you're looking for the anomaly Drops in the Ocean). Your empire's Native Interference policy must be Active or Unrestricted, it will never spawn if your policy is Passive.
Survey Black Holes (you're looking for the anomaly Rainbow in the Dark).
Do the anomaly Rainbow in the Dark with any Scientist (though ideally, one that doesn't have Paranoid or Maniacal). You can get the Paranoid trait from this anomaly.
Do the Drops in the Ocean anomaly from earlier, with the Paranoid scientist you just got.
Choose the Paranoid dialog options, once your Scientist gains the Maniacal trait you'll know you succeeded.
Wait about a week in game. You will get an alert that your Scientist is now a Psionics Expert.

Source: https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/265744/how-to-get-a-scientist-with-psionics-expertise

to add - there is also the Sea of Consciousness anomaly that can straight give you the psionic theory tech but i dont know how rare the anomaly is but you know thats there too.

[Meewec]

if you have megacorp then buy pops from the rattlings and get a psionic leader that way

[Seaghauwn]

Originally posted by Meewec:

if you have megacorp then buy pops from the rattlings and get a psionic leader that way

sometimes they do not appear.

[Nightmyre]

@GrandTheft - yes, that is one of the various ways you can do it. @Meewec same for you. My suggestion is simply one that hasn't been listed, at least in the searches I've done.

[corisai]

If you're already going to use cheat mod to get psionic theory - why not simply use console instead?

[Elitewrecker PT]

You still have to do the entire Zroni chain (with chance of losing it I suppose).

[corisai]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

You still have to do the entire Zroni chain (with chance of losing it I suppose).

Any reason to do so via mod?

I mean - it's okay to use Zroni events if you want to have psionic materialist in ironman game. For example via restarting game until you will get them.

But installing mod only to get this chain & psionic theory? Phew, I would just cheat theory instead. Especially as theory itself isn't give any notable buffs.

It's feel like half-way cheating. Still cheating, but in a long boring way.

[Elitewrecker PT]

You're just cutting the random restarts...

[Nightmyre]

@Elite - you don't need to do the entire chain. The moment you discover that your precursor is Zroni, you get access to Psionic Theory.

@Corisai - that's a fair point, but I think some would probably consider it to be less "cheating", on top of which it is technically still possible to do while still having achievements enabled, since you can just keep restarting the game until you get the Zroni precursor.

As far as I'm aware, each precursor is equally likely to be presented for you, which means you have a 1/7 chance each game to get Zroni. Shouldn't take you too many restarts before you get them.

[corisai]

Originally posted by Nightmyre:

As far as I'm aware, each precursor is equally likely to be presented for you, which means you have a 1/7 chance each game to get Zroni. Shouldn't take you too many restarts before you get them.

Nah, it's much funnier :)

Try to use debugtooltip - currently you can easily spawn near to 2-3 precursors areas and blind luck will determine what you will get. Plus some worlds are with TWO tags similarly.

It's best way to do so in modded game - just look for tag you're want. AFAIK you could do same with ironman game - copy it, disable ironman via editing savefile and check map :)

[Elitewrecker PT]

Originally posted by Nightmyre:

@Elite - you don't need to do the entire chain. The moment you discover that your precursor is Zroni, you get access to Psionic Theory.

Oh, I only did Zroni in my last game but I was a machine empire so I don't think I even got the tech, regardless if at the end or start. Just assumed it was a final reward.

[Nightmyre]

Originally posted by Elitewrecker PT:

Originally posted by Nightmyre:

@Elite - you don't need to do the entire chain. The moment you discover that your precursor is Zroni, you get access to Psionic Theory.

Oh, I only did Zroni in my last game but I was a machine empire so I don't think I even got the tech, regardless if at the end or start. Just assumed it was a final reward.

Yeah you won't get it if you're Gestalt, since Gestalt is not allowed Psionic Theory.

@Corisai - not Ironman, achievements. You can't get achievements with mods, but you can get Psionic Theory easily by just restarting over and over. Doesn't exactly take a huge amount of time either.

[corisai]

Originally posted by Nightmyre:

@Corisai - not Ironman, achievements. You can't get achievements with mods, but you can get Psionic Theory easily by just restarting over and over. Doesn't exactly take a huge amount of time either.

And this why I wrote my posts - why waste time on reloads or install another potential source of bugs (=mod) while you can just enter 1 command in console?

[Elitewrecker PT]

It's a rather useless precursor when you're gestalt.

[Nightmyre]

Originally posted by corisai:

Originally posted by Nightmyre:

@Corisai - not Ironman, achievements. You can't get achievements with mods, but you can get Psionic Theory easily by just restarting over and over. Doesn't exactly take a huge amount of time either.

And this why I wrote my posts - why waste time on reloads or install another potential source of bugs (=mod) while you can just enter 1 command in console?

Yeah - that's fair. I suppose at that point it's just a question of whether you consider this less "cheaty" than a console command.