Are Synthetics worth it?

[Paragon]

Title. The +10% output is tempting, but the whole self-awareness thing is scary. I don't ever intend to give them rights and to use them primarily for basic jobs. Besides, treating them like the toasters they are saves amneties and housing.

I mean, I spawned next to space skynet that almost killed me. You can't seriously think synths are a good idea after that?

[Nightmyre]

self-awareness? are you talking about an AI rebellion? If I'm not mistaken, that only happens if you don't give the synths citizen-rights and treat them properly.

By far the biggest benefit robots have, especially in 2.3, is that they are not affected by habitability.

This means they don't suffer happiness penalties, but more importantly, they don't cost more on low-habitability planets, and they don't grow slower on said planets.

As a result, even if you've only a small area to colonize, you can still do very well, since you can colonize all the planets in that area.

[Meewec]

synths just upgrades them to people level of intelligence so they can work any job your policies/rights settings allow. so if you want to enslave them you can keep them slaves, or if you want to free them you can do that. only time you have to free the synths is if you go the synthetic ascension path since you will become synths

[wolkenwand]

It is mentioned in here:
https://stellaris.paradoxwikis.com/Traditions#Ascension_perks
if you take flesh is weak ascension perk then your robot will never be rebelling, you can keep them as slave forever.

[SumYungGuy]

I read somewhere you can outlaw AI and still research Synths, restricting them to Specialists and Workers, but still getting the 10% buff.

[ppaladin123]

Do the synthetic ascension! You have perfect habitability anywhere colonizable, you don't need food and your upkeep and assembly speed can be set to ridiculous levels with modifications...your population skyrockets as long as you have a decent energy output. It's quite impressive.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

From my point of view:
Synthetic ascension is the strongest ascension in the game.
Turn everyone into immortal machine's.
No need to gene mod undisable traits, No need to worry about habbility.
It is like playing a machine empire with the extra bother of Consumer goods.
Tho why you would use it instead of just starting as a machine empire for any reason other then roleplay is beyond me.
Same with genetic asecension.
You can get synth and mod gene's without the asecension perks.
While psionic are inferior to the other asencion perks it is atleast unique.

Are synth worth it as slave race?
Yes.
You get plenty of warning's to prevent an ai uprising.
And if it does happen you can pick on what side to fight.
I tryed getting an ai revolt several times and i just coudnt get one despite threating them like poop.

[Meewec]

Originally posted by Malaficus Shaikan:

I tryed getting an ai revolt several times and i just coudnt get one despite threating them like poop.

just try what seems to be guaranteed for me, have no robots

[Shad]

Synths are pointless right now, unless you want to go synth ascension (that's very strong).

Non-sentient droids have halved housing and CG costs, so they are massively preferable from an economic point of view.