Swarm Builds that dont get killed right away

[JJ Blondie]

Hey, i make a swarm AI empire to be in my game so i can fight like the zerg or tyranids but they just get killed by the other AI so easily. i want them to be like a threat eating its way through the galaxy. Is there something im missing?

[Metadragon]

Just cause they are a hive mind doesnt mean they are inherently better than the others.

[JJ Blondie]

Originally posted by Metadragon:

Just cause they are a hive mind doesnt mean they are inherently better than the others.

I didnt say that? i want it so it is better instead of just getting killed quickly in the game

[Metadragon]

Originally posted by JJ:

Originally posted by Metadragon:

Just cause they are a hive mind doesnt mean they are inherently better than the others.

I didnt say that? i want it so it is better instead of just getting killed quickly in the game

Its luck of the draw.

[wiebeschouten]

Originally posted by JJ:

Originally posted by Metadragon:

Just cause they are a hive mind doesnt mean they are inherently better than the others.

I didnt say that? i want it so it is better instead of just getting killed quickly in the game

Like Metadragon said, it's mostly luck of the draw. The thing is: Devouring Swarms (like Fanatic Purifiers) get stuck with a -1000 relationship penalty to all other factions, along with further penalties for all the rampant conquering and purging the Swarm inevitably does. The second they gain any kind of real power, the AI empires will team up to kill them out of simple self-preservation. It's a recurring problem and I don't think you can fix it in the current game.

If you're into modding, maybe you can try lowering the relationship penalty to reduce its threat rating. That might increase the likelyhood of the Swarm surviving long enough to give you a nice challenge.

[B5R]

Originally posted by JJ:

Hey, i make a swarm AI empire to be in my game so i can fight like the zerg or tyranids but they just get killed by the other AI so easily. i want them to be like a threat eating its way through the galaxy. Is there something im missing?

If you want fight against zerg/nids - you need a prethoryn scourge , Purificators and swarm do not give this feeling - total war and struggle for life

[JJ Blondie]

Originally posted by wiebeschouten:

Originally posted by JJ:

I didnt say that? i want it so it is better instead of just getting killed quickly in the game

Like Metadragon said, it's mostly luck of the draw. The thing is: Devouring Swarms (like Fanatic Purifiers) get stuck with a -1000 relationship penalty to all other factions, along with further penalties for all the rampant conquering and purging the Swarm inevitably does. The second they gain any kind of real power, the AI empires will team up to kill them out of simple self-preservation. It's a recurring problem and I don't think you can fix it in the current game.

If you're into modding, maybe you can try lowering the relationship penalty to reduce its threat rating. That might increase the likelyhood of the Swarm surviving long enough to give you a nice challenge.

Yeah ive download mods, cant seem to find one tho that reduces the threat unless im blind :) Also thank you all

[twitch]

Last time i played as a devouring swarm, I built my species to grow as quickly as possible and colonized as many planets as i could. Once i had a fleet power of around 2.5k i started attacking empires close to me who didn't have any allies. Rinse and repeat, I ended up with about half the galaxy under my control before a fallen empire came in and wrecked me (ai colonized a holy world which i ceded )

[Serangel]

Swarm empires are difficult because everyone already hates you, plus expanding too fast will cripple your economy and destroy your reseach leaving you far behind in tech. Its currently not a very viable race due to the mechanics of the game, not impossible, but not very viable. Its up to rnjesus to decide if that playthough will work for you or not.