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Mentos Sep 26, 2017 @ 6:33pm
The Commonwealth doesn't make sense..
End of the 21st Century..so like 2075 - 2099 an Ark goes through a wormhole and ends up colonizing the moon Unity with approx. 250,000 residents. 100 years later, they have developed Unity into a heavily populated world that is developed enough to construct new starships.

That..is unreasonable There are alot of things that would be involved in colonizing a new world, even if they had access to their home worlds resources which they don't in this case it would be extremely difficult and time consuming. It's not like you could just plop down a city on some random spot on an unknown planet and start having millions of babies over the course of a mere century. Not to mention the panic, of 250,000 civilians who quitely likely expected to be able to visit home again are suddenly, and permenantly cut off from the rest of humanity. Factions would form, there would be mini civil wars over disagreements on how to move forward. It'd be chaos. For a long time, people would die. I'd argue it'd take at least three centuries to reach their level of development at game start. And that is being optimistic.

I know it's just a game, but the whole concept here is flawed in its very idea. No worse than the idea that pretty much all scifi strategy games push that every race magically becomes FTL capable at exactly the same time but still..
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KrysisMode Sep 26, 2017 @ 6:50pm 
It's a game that basically embodies every space opera and cheese science fiction piece over the decades. Logic has no place here and you know it! Breathe man you're taking a game that was already silly way too seriously.
kaiyl_kariashi Sep 26, 2017 @ 7:12pm 
set number of AI empires to 1 and crank up native world to max.

There ya go.
Mentos Sep 26, 2017 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by utilitygirl:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/71gzv0/i_finally_understand_the_commonwealth_of_man/

This should clear things up with the CoM

It does to a point, but the writer fails to address the level of development a civilization would require in order to construct space faring warships. Even if they went with a mostly automated industrial style.

So they managed to unify and choose a leader, successfully colonize the planet. It's the year 2200, they have a population of somewhere between 2 million and 30 million humans. I think that they were assigned the wrong ethical and civic traits to reflect how they would likely need to develop in order to become a space faring civilization with such a low population. Especially one that can afford to take losses in a war without crippling themselves genetically by losing a single warship.

They would need to focus their scientific development on robotics. Materialist and Mechanist make sense here. Militant still applies, but I think Fanatical should go to Materialist. And one could also argue that those responsible for the robotics (and thus the very survival of their race) would gain quite a bit of power on Unity...leading to a corporate dominion..maybe..probably..

I just wish editing the humans didn't get rid of their personal story arcs.
Last edited by Mentos; Sep 26, 2017 @ 8:03pm
Keep in mind that 2020 doesn't have to mean our 2020, it could've been more than a 100 years. Furthermore you're right that there would be a high likelyhood of strife that's not inevitable, the CoM is a miltiary dictatorship so maybe they survived because some charismatic military man/woman held them together and became their first dictator.
Mentos Sep 27, 2017 @ 7:55am 
True in that regard, but it seems odd to have the initial "star date" be 2200 rather than like...0001 in such a case. Don't mind me lol, I'm just trying to make sense of the background. I can't even play distant worlds on anything other than an irregular galaxy because it makes no sense to be limited to 1400 stars unless you're in an isolated (small) cluster. I've no idea how I'm gonna survive Stellaris lol.
Last edited by Mentos; Sep 27, 2017 @ 7:55am
Originally posted by Keksalot:
True in that regard, but it seems odd to have the initial "star date" be 2200 rather than like...0001 in such a case. Don't mind me lol, I'm just trying to make sense of the background. I can't even play distant worlds on anything other than an irregular galaxy because it makes no sense to be limited to 1400 stars unless you're in an isolated (small) cluster. I've no idea how I'm gonna survive Stellaris lol.
Heh, there's no shame in having a stricter verisimilitude requirement. One way you can view it is as an abstraction, there aren't really a max of a thousand stars it's just that the rest are mostly usless and so no-one cares about them.
Last edited by Apeironic_Entelechy; Sep 27, 2017 @ 8:36am
Lain's Navi Sep 27, 2017 @ 8:27am 
Not trying to insult anyone's intelligence, but The Commonwealth of Man is mostly a reference to the Confederacy from Starcraft, with the actual name being a reference to the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40k.

The whole civilization is really just an easter egg of sorts, don't think too hard about it.
Originally posted by Lain's Navi:
Not trying to insult anyone's intelligence, but The Commonwealth of Man is mostly a reference to the Confederacy from Starcraft, with the actual name being a reference to the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40k.

The whole civilization is really just an easter egg of sorts, don't think too hard about it.
The Imperium of Man reference is pretty obvious but how it is connected to the Confederacy?

(Also I don't see anything wrong with logically examine the given flavor)
Meewec Sep 27, 2017 @ 8:56am 
Originally posted by Fourthspartan56:
Originally posted by Lain's Navi:
Not trying to insult anyone's intelligence, but The Commonwealth of Man is mostly a reference to the Confederacy from Starcraft, with the actual name being a reference to the Imperium of Man from Warhammer 40k.

The whole civilization is really just an easter egg of sorts, don't think too hard about it.
The Imperium of Man reference is pretty obvious but how it is connected to the Confederacy?

(Also I don't see anything wrong with logically examine the given flavor)
the confederacy was basically started the same way, prisoner ships sent out into distant space that they didn't care about untill the events of brood war
Originally posted by Meewec:
Originally posted by Fourthspartan56:
The Imperium of Man reference is pretty obvious but how it is connected to the Confederacy?

(Also I don't see anything wrong with logically examine the given flavor)
the confederacy was basically started the same way, prisoner ships sent out into distant space that they didn't care about untill the events of brood war
I had forgotten, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
Last edited by Apeironic_Entelechy; Sep 27, 2017 @ 8:59am
Elwetritsch Sep 27, 2017 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by Fourthspartan56:

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The Imperium of Man reference is pretty obvious but how it is connected to the Confederacy?

...

The only connections i could imagine are:
1. Space colonisation went wrong and both are stranded far away from home and their original
destiny

2. They share a certain liking for greek names. Stellaris has the Ulysses Project, Starcraft has the
Atlas Computer and shipnames like "Hyperion" and "Alexander".

Does not seem too much to be honest.
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