Spiritualist Re-work/Additions?

[Scarface One]

So the Spiritualist ethic is at a pretty good spot..... I think. It has the abilities for your Empire to tap into Psionics and its helpful starting benefits. Honestly, I love this game for its fun little miny stories like the "Precursor Hunt" and "The Horizon Signal" events, so I just want more of those.

What I'm trying to get at is add a religion system or events to Stellaris similar to the Civilization series. It'd be pretty cool to make your own default religion and God(s) to the game. Similar to the Empire and Leader naming system in a way. Heck, maybe add in some bonuses similar to Governing Ethics for your religion madate: "Crusaders" adds 10% damage to your armies -15 diplomacy and things like that. For events maybe add in Stop (Purge) heretical protests on your colony and protect your homeworld from a massive heretic rebel fleet. Its not like not having Spiritualist would exclude you from all this though..... minus Purging the Heretics.

We already have the Shroud and the Worm who Waits..... would it be so bad to ask for a benevolent God?...... or Emperor of Mankind-like figure?

Almost forgot: For Materialists or players who don't wait this sorta change, there could always be a seperate system for these Empires as well that could give their own bonuses.

Sorry if some of this seems half-baked or starts a Flame War in the comments (If this even gets enough views) I just want a Emperor of Mankind like event or figure in my game....

[Off-Suit Nines]

Isn't there a Shroud outcome that lets you focus most of the psychic might of your empire in your leader(essentially making him/her a Godking)? Or was that a mod I was using?

[Peter34]

I am not aware of any mods that affect or improve the Shroud.

And I got that Shroud outcome too, or a somewhat similar one. My ruler became immortal, so I instantly switched from Oligarchy to Imperial and the Philosopher King Civic.

[Off-Suit Nines]

Originally posted by Peter34:

I am not aware of any mods that affect or improve the Shroud.

And I got that Shroud outcome too, or a somewhat similar one. My ruler became immortal, so I instantly switched from Oligarchy to Imperial and the Philosopher King Civic.

There might not be. I run 30~ mods at any one time and most of my energy goes into making sure they don't conflict, so keeping track of which do what after the fact can be a bit tricky.

[Peter34]

I’ve started checking the Workshop for new (“Recent”) mods every 12-48 hours, and a couple of weeks ago I did some searches for Shroud mods. Found nothing.

[Gingermonkey]

Originally posted by Fury Golem:

Originally posted by Peter34:

I am not aware of any mods that affect or improve the Shroud.

And I got that Shroud outcome too, or a somewhat similar one. My ruler became immortal, so I instantly switched from Oligarchy to Imperial and the Philosopher King Civic.

There might not be. I run 30~ mods at any one time and most of my energy goes into making sure they don't conflict, so keeping track of which do what after the fact can be a bit tricky.

It would be the Chosen One event I believe. Really nice for a god-king leader

[Peter34]

Is there a God-King thing? Civic or something? The closest I've found is the Philosopher King and that's not quite there, but is there something I've overlooked?

[Gingermonkey]

Originally posted by Peter34:

Is there a God-King thing? Civic or something? The closest I've found is the Philosopher King and that's not quite there, but is there something I've overlooked?

There is a god-king civic. Fanatic spiritual/ authoritarian combo I believe. It's called Imperial Cult

[Peter34]

Oh, I did use that at one point. I just didnt think of is as being a God-King.

[Gingermonkey]

Originally posted by Peter34:

Oh, I did use that at one point. I just didnt think of is as being a God-King.

It's literally gives the title God-Emperor to your leader lol

[Scarface One]

Oh thats pretty cool, I honestly haven't bought Utopia yet, just because its $20.00 for what seems like only minor additions. (Please let me know how hella wrong I am on a scale of 1-10). I'd just like to be able to have a system were your able to make your own religion (Mostly meme purposes) and gain bonuses and further expand your Empire's personality. Maybe it doesn't have to be a religion of peace, maybe your species believes in an entity(ies) that want blood and conquest.

I like the concept of the Shroud, but I dislike the fact that their isn't a single benevolent (Gods or Spirits?) that screw you in one way, what I mean for example: Yin and Yang, Order and Chaos, and opposite equals.

I'd like to see a full on system where you decide your God(s) or maybe none at all, and then select Civics based on a combination of Ethics similar to the Hivemind choices. Not excluding Materialists or Atheist Empires however, they should also get their own Civics just like a Spiritualist or a religion believing Empire, but with differences.

[Off-Suit Nines]

Originally posted by Scarface One:

Oh thats pretty cool, I honestly haven't bought Utopia yet, just because its $20.00 for what seems like only minor additions. (Please let me know how hella wrong I am on a scale of 1-10). I'd just like to be able to have a system were your able to make your own religion (Mostly meme purposes) and gain bonuses and further expand your Empire's personality. Maybe it doesn't have to be a religion of peace, maybe your species believes in an entity(ies) that want blood and conquest.

I like the concept of the Shroud, but I dislike the fact that their isn't a single non-benevolent (Gods or Spirits?) that screw you in one way, what I mean for example: Yin and Yang, Order and Chaos, and opposite equals.

I'd like to see a full on system where you decide your God(s) or maybe none at all, and then select Civics based on a combination of Ethics similar to the Hivemind choices. Not excluding Materialists or Atheist Empires however, they should also get their own Civics just like a Spiritualist or a religion believing Empire, but with differences.

You're not wrong. PDX gives away most of the good stuff in any given update for free, so the paid content can be a bit thin for some of their updates. That said, I've rarely regretted buying one of their DLCs because they do give you a more complete and fleshed-out game. Notice I said 'rarely', because there are a few totally garbage DLCs for CKII and EUIV(one each, with two more 'meh' for CKII)

There are definitely non-benevolent Shroud entities, they're just rare. After all, if the Shroud had too many negative events it wouldn't be very balanced against Synth/Bio and creating conflict in text boxes can be a bit flat.

I would be surprised if that isn't a DLC 2-3 years down the road, but it probably won't be a priority.

[Peter34]

There are definitely Shroud outcomes that are bad.

[Scarface One]

I made an error. I meant to say: benovolent and not non-benovolent.... my bad guys. I was dissapointed by the Shroud to be honest. Its sorta almost exactly the Warp from 40K. Five sorta evil gods and some interesting tech. I expected it to be a big combination of The Warp and The Force.

[Scarface One]

Also a bit of a funny story: I downloaded some Star Wars mods and made a Rebel Alliance Empire and started playing. Along the way, one of my researchers was Psionic which allowed me to get the Psi Warrior attachment for my armies. It was amazing. I wasn't even Spiritualist (I forgot the RA usually said "May the Force be with you and I felt dumb).

[Peter34]

I made a long post on Reddit, about 2-3 weeks ago I think it was, with many suggestions for possibilities for how Paradox can iterate on the Shroud.