is the AI still horrendously overpowered?

[Crazed Dutchman]

so i stopped playing Stellaris for an while because i noticed that the AI got a lot smarter with the 1.8 update but with one problem. They were more focusing on military than on infrastructure so i always got rekt no matter how i played.

[Sgtcuddles]

I agree, the AI always overpowers me in the first 20 minutes and wipes me. seems to be a trend in every solo match I play

[Sgtcuddles]

I just started a game, and I dont know if it was a bug or something but I colonized a planet and it wasnt a holy world, but the empire below me freaked out and sent a 60k fleet at me, and note this was 5-10 minutes into the game. Im playing with no advanced starts and normal dificullty. I always get stuck with some giant civ that crushes my boarders making it nearly impossible to expand.

[RawCode]

playing tall is not viable if you want to dominate galaxy by your own.

if you playing tall you must rely on other empires for warfare, does not actually works if you have fanatic purefiers by your doorstep.

[nekoman]

Originally posted by Sgtcuddles:

I just started a game, and I dont know if it was a bug or something but I colonized a planet and it wasnt a holy world, but the empire below me freaked out and sent a 60k fleet at me, and note this was 5-10 minutes into the game. Im playing with no advanced starts and normal dificullty. I always get stuck with some giant civ that crushes my boarders making it nearly impossible to expand.

That's a Fallen Empire, they are supposed to be OP, you can disable them if you want.

[Your Neighbour]

Don't approach their borders if it's a fallen empire, also zealots have holy planets, if you settle on any of those holy planets it is an instant war. Fallen empires are easy to kill, just not early in game

[RawCode]

they are easy to kill only if you metagame around and know in advance what and how

[GC13]

The AI has never been overpowered, it just plays the early game fairly well. If you can learn to play the early game better than it, the AI loses its teeth because it just can't compound later into the game.

[Jimib4158]

YOU CAN ALWAYS USE A CHEAT TO KEEP PACE.....IF I AM LOSING THATS WHAT I DO ~ CASH OR minerals X

If you want to play just legit you shouldnt get attacked untill end game if you are carefull

[RedShirt]

Played only normal and hard now and realy dont see how you could loose to the AI on these difficulties...
I mean its so easy to fool. Here are some of my favourites:
- early declare war and have a web at each spaceport. Dont build ships. The AI will attack with a much to small fleet. The AI ignores the strength of your military stations.
- when facing multiple enemies one is always following the other. But sometimes the one leading is faster. If you manage to kill it before the other fleet jumps it will just turn around.
- the ai will always try to recapture the same planet over and over
- The ai wont change course even when clearly jumping into an engagement. So you can predict its movement and capture it by folloowing its next jump.
- the ai will always repeat the same attack pattern as long as you dont change the layout to much.
- if engaged early let them bombard one planet and spam military. Also position a small fleet so it catches ground reinforcement. The AI will never change target.

The AI is basically a potato. Dont play it like its human.

[RainbowPig]

what about fighting 600k AE empires when i can only muster 200k at best, federation is made up of weak allies that muster around 15k-50k at best and they're soooo weak. the only way i'm winning is by rebuilding a space station just before they jump out, they destroy, they prepare to leave i rebuild, over and over... then it crashes and i lose 3 months of this bs

[Jimib4158]

Originally posted by RainbowPig007:

what about fighting 600k AE empires when i can only muster 200k at best, federation is made up of weak allies that muster around 15k-50k at best and they're soooo weak. the only way i'm winning is by rebuilding a space station just before they jump out, they destroy, they prepare to leave i rebuild, over and over... then it crashes and i lose 3 months of this bs

yea fallen awoken empires are a bit@h ....still not every map scenario has one, and not every fallen awoken is a reclaimer.

At least so far i havent experienced that, only my longest game, and i think i was just unlucky

[Rumpeltroll]

With the 2.0 update there is no need to be wiped out the first 20 min.
I find the AI do be to little aggressive, thing is one got real defence stations now to build on choke points :) Sicne only Hyperlane is available in the start

[Zefnoly]

Originally posted by GC13:

The AI has never been overpowered, it just plays the early game fairly well. If you can learn to play the early game better than it, the AI loses its teeth because it just can't compound later into the game.

I needed 2 ringworlds and 1 dysonsphere to get enough income to outpower some of the AI's in fleet power... They seem to often ignore income when it comes to fleet size.

[galadon3]

the AI pays half the upkeep a human player does as well as half the consumer goods

[Ardenian]

Before 2.0, I played this game for like 40 hours and had great difficulty with the computer player strength, now, after getting some experience and playing with 2.0, it feels easier to get equal fleet power with the AI, playing with Normal aggressiveness and diffiulty. Experience surely does its magic, too, but I would say the Ai is not as overpowered as it used to be before 2.0.

Right now am in an endgame and no common computer player has more than equivalent fleet power and naval capacity, even Fallen Empires ( Holy Guardians->Awakened Something) merely have Superior fleet power.

All in all I would say the computer players are not as overpowered as they used to be. Maybe in the beginning if you do not care about military, but around mid-game you should be at least equal to other common computer players with ease.