Telepathy Worth It

[101Titan101]

Is it???

[Ungenau84]

Yes. Synthetic and psionic have both advantages worth it.

Psi Jump Drives, psi shields, avatars, psionic trait gives research bonus ...

[101Titan101]

Originally posted by Ungenau84:

Yes. Synthetic and psionic have both advantages worth it.

Psi Jump Drives, psi shields, avatars, psionic trait gives research bonus ...

What is the difference between the first Psi Ascension perk and the second one?

[Ungenau84]

The first one is just ... crap ... you people get the trait "latent psionic" (not sure if it's the right term in english). Some of your leder could get psionics, for your pops it doesn't matter.

With the second all your people get real psionics = research, production, happynes +5%.
Your leader are all psionic, that gives different bonus depending on the "job" +10% research, -x% unrest, +15% evasion ...
And the second perks alows you to enter the shroud for 1200 energy that gives you the chance for rare technology, bonuses, psionic avatars ... and bad, really bad things ;)

[101Titan101]

Originally posted by Ungenau84:

The first one is just ... crap ... you people get the trait "latent psionic" (not sure if it's the right term in english). Some of your leder could get psionics, for your pops it doesn't matter.

With the second all your people get real psionics = research, production, happynes +5%.
Your leader are all psionic, that gives different bonus depending on the "job" +10% research, -x% unrest, +15% evasion ...
And the second perks alows you to enter the shroud for 1200 energy that gives you the chance for rare technology, bonuses, psionic avatars ... and bad, really bad things ;)

Isn't the shroud that thing which kills you after 50 years?

[Ungenau84]

no that information is kind of wrong.

You can enter the shroud (every 3600 days) for credits and have the chance for a random event - mostly you have different choices. You are talking of the event "end of the cycle" and it happens late. Also nobody forces you to accept the end and start the event.

[Ungenau84]

Ah sorry, do you mean the transcendence path or the technology "telepathy"?

[101Titan101]

Originally posted by Ungenau84:

Ah sorry, do you mean the transcendence path or the technology "telepathy"?

Whatever one is the Ascension perk.

[Ordinary Dark]

currently psyonic path is the strongest if u ask me

[kazaddum]

Originally posted by Scrooge:

currently psyonic path is the strongest if u ask me

Nah that would be Synth. Howevery psyionic is the most fleshed out. Getting all special tech and events.

[cooltv27]

synth is strongest. psionic is most interesting.

[TSP]

Originally posted by kazaddum:

Originally posted by Scrooge:

currently psyonic path is the strongest if u ask me

Nah that would be Synth. Howevery psyionic is the most fleshed out. Getting all special tech and events.

Originally posted by cooltv27:

synth is strongest. psionic is most interesting.

Completely agreed. Looking very much forward to 1.8 because of them fleshing out those ascensions, hiveminds, traditions to make sense to them (No happiness traditions for hiveminds because... yeah...), and the teasing borg (AI) hivemind that they teased with a picture or two.

Want it!

[kazaddum]

Originally posted by Agent Orange:

Originally posted by kazaddum:

Nah that would be Synth. Howevery psyionic is the most fleshed out. Getting all special tech and events.

Originally posted by cooltv27:

synth is strongest. psionic is most interesting.

Completely agreed. Looking very much forward to 1.8 because of them fleshing out those ascensions, hiveminds, traditions to make sense to them (No happiness traditions for hiveminds because... yeah...), and the teasing borg (AI) hivemind that they teased with a picture or two.

Want it!

So far synth feels shallow.

I mean there are so many obvious cool ideas for non psykers.

Like other species pops wanting to join you, or you forcing them as synth.
Or some primitives who venerate your researchers as gods because they are shiny and chrome.
Much to the discomfort of the materialist basis. Now having spawned a religion around them...

Or being able to settle barren planets as synth. Or toxic or molten. After all Synths do not need to breath or eat. A couple hundred degrees more or some acid atmosphere would hardly stop them.

Likewise gene tailoring species to be able to live in vacuum or on toxic planets would be neato.
Going full hyperion saga as gene tinkering empire would be fun.

[andrew.gaiennie]

It's fun, opens unique dialog with end-game invaders, has a random chance mechanic that's always interesting and a pretty good flat bonus to all your pops and leaders. So ya, it's worth it. Plus going spiritual means tons and tons of traditions and a unified, spiritual population. You'll max out all the trees in a normal game(3 is my max otherwise before I win or loose) so that in itself is huge.

All in all, I'd go bio if I was trying hard to win, Synth is just game-breaking but takes forever to get to, and Spiritual is my personal fav for the happy pops and role-playing. Feels like the most well thought out one.