Valid research options not appearing.

[Sum Ting Wong]

I've played a couple of games now where despite knowing there are still research options that should be available, they will not show up and all I get are repeatable options.

This happens every game, every race, every society type I play. I've switched researchers with completely different perks, brought in other race's scientists, and nothing. Just the same options again and again.

Example: I clear the Enigmatic Fortress chain and unlock the research. Immediately, one of the new enigmatic tech options shows up. And then the rest never appear. Just to test it and see if they do or not after playing for fun, I've used a hex editor to increase my research speed to instant and ripped through 200 research options, switching scientists every 50 completed research projects. And none of the enigmatic options appeared in those 200 attempts. Or any of the other options I know are still there.

As this is 100% repeatable and nothing I can do on my end has any effect besides just outright cheating to specifically target and unlock technologies, it's become clear something's inherently and fundamentally wrong with how research in this game works.

Is anyone else getting this? I can't imagine it's just me.

[ShadoWwolF]

you only get one of the enigmatic technologies now. they changed it in the last patch

[Sum Ting Wong]

.... Why do they keep doing that? Keep bringing in new stuff and then taking it away?

Still, there's plenty of other rare techs that are still missing. Haven't gotten tachyon lances yet either. Should have seen them by now.

[ShadoWwolF]

Originally posted by Sum Ting Wong:

.... Why do they keep doing that? Keep bringing in new stuff and then taking it away?

Still, there's plenty of other rare techs that are still missing. Haven't gotten tachyon lances yet either. Should have seen them by now.

have you scrolled down and looked to see if you have any unresearched weapon techs at the bottom? if you've been scanning debris you will probably end up with a bunch of laser weapon techs at the bottom of the list. its probably either down there or a pre-requisite tech is

[Sum Ting Wong]

Originally posted by ShadoWwolF:

Originally posted by Sum Ting Wong:

.... Why do they keep doing that? Keep bringing in new stuff and then taking it away?

Still, there's plenty of other rare techs that are still missing. Haven't gotten tachyon lances yet either. Should have seen them by now.

have you scrolled down and looked to see if you have any unresearched weapon techs at the bottom? if you've been scanning debris you will probably end up with a bunch of laser weapon techs at the bottom of the list. its probably either down there or a pre-requisite tech is

Just making sure, when you say 'scroll' down, you mean when you're looking to select your next research right? I only get 4 options each time, so there's nothing to scroll through.

Is there maybe types of tech that once researched close off other research options?

[ShadoWwolF]

Originally posted by Sum Ting Wong:

Originally posted by ShadoWwolF:

have you scrolled down and looked to see if you have any unresearched weapon techs at the bottom? if you've been scanning debris you will probably end up with a bunch of laser weapon techs at the bottom of the list. its probably either down there or a pre-requisite tech is

Just making sure, when you say 'scroll' down, you mean when you're looking to select your next research right? I only get 4 options each time, so there's nothing to scroll through.

Is there maybe types of tech that once researched close off other research options?

yeah i mean in that list. what normally happens is you research some debris and end up with tech that stay permanently at the bottom of the list below your 4th picks. its really easy to not notice that they are there

there isnt any tech that closes off other techs. you should be able to get tachyon lances if you have all the pre-requisite laser techs

[Sum Ting Wong]

Originally posted by ShadoWwolF:

Originally posted by Sum Ting Wong:

Just making sure, when you say 'scroll' down, you mean when you're looking to select your next research right? I only get 4 options each time, so there's nothing to scroll through.

Is there maybe types of tech that once researched close off other research options?

yeah i mean in that list. what normally happens is you research some debris and end up with tech that stay permanently at the bottom of the list below your 4th picks. its really easy to not notice that they are there

there isnt any tech that closes off other techs. you should be able to get tachyon lances if you have all the pre-requisite laser techs

I notice them immediately because my list goes off the page. And because their frame is glowing and highlighted. But yeah, there are definitely techs I pass over because I'm given another more enticing option and then I never see the one I didn't go with again. The only thing I can think of possibly is I scan debris from something advanced like an ascendant civilization and that unlocks a tech further down the chain so it skips everything in between.

[OrcaLord]

I'm in the same setuation. Every empire around me are building a dysonsphear and ring worlds. Meanwhile I'm stuck with habitats, nexus, sentry array and gates. I can't even find the ring world research and dysonsphear research and I'm stuck in a loop

[Unimportant]

Originally posted by OrcaLord:

I'm in the same setuation. Every empire around me are building a dysonsphear and ring worlds. Meanwhile I'm stuck with habitats, nexus, sentry array and gates. I can't even find the ring world research and dysonsphear research and I'm stuck in a loop

Get the galactic wonders ascension perk

[Mike]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.