Spectate mode/after dead

[blessed]

remove the spectate mode after dead asap,.!! ppl who teaming (70% of player base ) have view of every single player on map when one of his "teammates" die and can eazly spectate everyone ,. so real solo player has no chance to survive

[Dugs]

This is in game, for real?
Wow...

[Chameleon_Silk]

they are not going to remove it because when matchmaking with friends is active it will work as intended, which is to only show you your team mates views.

the only reason it shows everyone is because its meant to be a solo queue feature where you can watch the rest of the encounter from anyone else's viewpoint since you are no longer a part of the game.

it will become more useful when people don't have to try and drop together as a tool for ousting suspected cheaters.

the devs are not going to make changes to a system that is working correctly and will work correctly when they finish the next feature that is dropping into the game, its counter productive.

I'm not saying it doesn't suck that people are using it to cheat, just to be clear but simply that it would waste development time when they should be working on getting crossplay and matchmaking with friends implemented (which I'm sure they are doing exactly that)

[TheOriginal_Sin_TTV]

Originally posted by Chameleon_Silk:

the devs are not going to make changes to a system that is working correctly and will work correctly when they finish the next feature that is dropping into the game, its counter productive.

It doesnt work "correctly" and should never be in the game and as long as it remains in the game as it is people will use it to exploits - them adding co-op makes no difference, it's been used on console to cheat for years. players WILL load into solo lobbies as a team just to exploit the spectator cam, they do it on console and will do it on PC.
Gamers are low lives for the most part who will do anything possible to cheat - this "feature" just screams to be exploited.

The kill-cam needs to be locked to the person who killed you only, no option to cycle through players. when the killer dies the game brings up the person who killed him/her and so on ... until that it done this "spectator cam" will forever be abused by some players. This is an issue the devs for some reason are super stubborn about and it's sad they wont act on it.

Sure, in an ideal world where no player would take advantage of it and exploit it maybe it's super crazy amazing fun to watch ppl after you die (I just get back to lobby and grab a loadout and go again tbh) but it's never going to be that way and you would "think" the developers would swallow their pride, change the "feature" if it meant a more fair playing field.

But nope, here we are years later and even on a new pc platform still having to discuss ppl using the spectator cam to cheat. it's crazy. There's been console players asking for this to be changed for years now.

[Chameleon_Silk]

I mean I get that some people will still exploit it but I think that most that are doing this are not that plentiful. if there are lots playing it becomes harder to drop into the same lobby and can take multiple matches to actually succeed. I know because I've split into two teams on console and actually fought my friends rather than team up and it was fun.

I know that obviously player counts are so low right now that it is very possible to do it every single match and even on console it can work with the slightly higher player numbers.

I'd be all for forcing a back out if you are the last one left on your team though and that would solve it for the most part... even if only 1 or 2 percent of games are people doing this, it is true that "we can't have nice things" so I won't try to argue that point as you make valid concerns and do raise actual issues with the setup. I just mean that in a world without cheating it is working as intended and I certainly do not use it to exploit.

I doubt there are 3 man teams running a ringer that often where one dude is purposely dying to help his buddies otherwise there wouldn't be a need for portables on sweats, which they often port you multiple times in a game if they are killers that are end game.

it just depends on how wide spread of an issue it really is, nothing in the game is that important that you can't lose a match or two.

[blessed]

Originally posted by TheOriginal_Sin_TTV:

Originally posted by Chameleon_Silk:

the devs are not going to make changes to a system that is working correctly and will work correctly when they finish the next feature that is dropping into the game, its counter productive.

It doesnt work "correctly" and should never be in the game and as long as it remains in the game as it is people will use it to exploits - them adding co-op makes no difference, it's been used on console to cheat for years. players WILL load into solo lobbies as a team just to exploit the spectator cam, they do it on console and will do it on PC.
Gamers are low lives for the most part who will do anything possible to cheat - this "feature" just screams to be exploited.

The kill-cam needs to be locked to the person who killed you only, no option to cycle through players. when the killer dies the game brings up the person who killed him/her and so on ... until that it done this "spectator cam" will forever be abused by some players. This is an issue the devs for some reason are super stubborn about and it's sad they wont act on it.

Sure, in an ideal world where no player would take advantage of it and exploit it maybe it's super crazy amazing fun to watch ppl after you die (I just get back to lobby and grab a loadout and go again tbh) but it's never going to be that way and you would "think" the developers would swallow their pride, change the "feature" if it meant a more fair playing field.

But nope, here we are years later and even on a new pc platform still having to discuss ppl using the spectator cam to cheat. it's crazy. There's been console players asking for this to be changed for years now.

Thanks Sin ,.all you said here I totally agree ,. spectate have to be removed asap or PC players never start play seriously ,.an

Originally posted by Dugs:

This is in game, for real?
Wow...

Ye its ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up :D Its impossible to play solo now :D everytime u met up with team of 2 or 3 and even if u kill one of them other 2 has view on you becouse there can teammate spectate you (everybody on map ) ,. and ppl abusing it for fun and for make more loot even after early acces will be wipe :D ppl are stupid :D

[Van_Z]

+1 to this

[TeamHunter]

the developers spit in your face. They are not interested in your problems. They have more important things to do - they need to make a game. A game that everyone fled before it even came out because the developers spit in your face.