Online Play?

[Faded Memoirs]

Hey! Saw that this is finally up for pre-order in game stores! Got a question about online play.

I noticed that it says that there's online play, but is it true that it's limited to just two players online?

Thanks!

[Echorion]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DanAmrich_DE:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Rizo the Hunter:

Who said it is only two online?

The original plan was 5 online, and that's still the plan -- but at launch, we are targeting two. This is quite honestly because we hit a snag and did not want to delay the game as a whole. So, two is more likely at launch, followed by an update that adds players, back to the original plan of five. It felt like the best compromise -- get the game out there, support what we can, and follow quickly with an upgrade.

FWIW, this is why devs cannot always give a ton of detail on games before release -- things happen, things go wrong, things need to be managed and player expectations won't always align if too much information is shared too early. This is exactly one of those situations that we had not predicted but now have to backtrack. And we don't like that.

Thank you for a fast and helpful answer. This explains it, makes total sense, and I 100% understand thank you. There is no reason to delay it over something like this; so long as you (genuinely) intend to follow up with a solution later.

I actually wish other developers were as honest and upfront as you all are. Please keep the great work, the game is looking phenomenal and at this point I am only hoping it has as many levels or more than TMNT because I would love to put this game on the same quality threshold.... because it's looking like you nailed it like they did.

[Fat Tony]

Their intention does not matter when money or suits are involved. That alone is ludicrous to state as your premise. They can already make the game worse after you buy it, why accept their promises to make it better after they have your money?

It's naive and childish.

I don't understand why this and jedi power battles don't have multiplayer as a key feature, otherwise.

[Nike]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ⚔TonkRogerio⚔:

I don't get it. it seems like the release is feature complete with only 2 online players rather than 5 and that's the only missing feature because they hit some unexpected issues. so how in the world would a delay help? I get if the game is unfinished then delay the game but if this is the only missing feature then.. why would you punish all the players who won't even play online or all the players only playing it with two players online? that makes no sense.
The only issue I might see is if someone wants to play specifically 5 players online and won't buy it thinking it doesn't support it but I think if someone is into this enough with 4 other friends then eventually they'll find out a 5 player mode is later added anyway, so..

Besides this I think not adding cross platform is a bad idea these days. I hope it comes later too but it doesn't sound like it.

I highly agree, Cross platform should be a thing any game dropping should have for the longevity of the game.

[CruZer]

"Does this mean local/offline coach coop is also limited to 2 player at launch as well? Steam page suggests this supports Lets Play Together. So in theory, if this has 4 or 5 player offline local play. We can lets play together stream online play until the online patch is ready."

Local gaming et online gaming are separated in the menu (not like TMNT SR)
-You can play with 4 other players in local coop
-You can only play 2 on online gaming (at the release, 5 players online later with updates)

[DanAmrich_DE]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย CruZer:

You can play with 4 other players in local coop

Unless your platform supports more than 4. Switch with Pro Controllers, for instance, can support more than 4, and we will support at least 5 there.

But online and offline are different modes, so your offline play will not be restricted to 2p at launch.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Fat Tony:

Their intention does not matter when money or suits are involved.

I feel the need to strongly disagree with your cynical take on this. The whole game was designed around a multiplayer experience, based on a shared control panel on an arcade machine, so it is a key feature. But things go wrong, and you either figure out a way to navigate and fix them, or you walk away. We're not walking away.

if you have this outlook based on your experience with other games, I am sorry, but we are not those games and I will not accept being blamed for the mistakes of others. How WE overcome and correct our own mistakes is all that matters.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Nike:

Cross platform should be a thing any game dropping should have for the longevity of the game.

Getting the first-party companies to even allow this kind of cooperation is relatively new and still rare. Cross-platform play is a really cool feature that some games have managed to pull off -- but most do not. However, because it's so cool when it works, it has quickly become an assumption rather than an exception, and I cannot stress enough that it should not be an expectation for a whole host of reasons, from technicalities to permissions. Great when it can happen -- agreed. Not easy on the back end -- confirmed.

Cross-gen play (PS4 to PS5; Xbox One to Xbox Series) is supported in Rita's Rewind, but cross-platform (PC to PS5, Switch to Xbox) is not.

[Setsuna]

Thanks for answering my question Will this game come out for windows PC? not steam? Or is the PC release only for steam.? And if it does I would assume cross-play would work via windows since its going to be on the Xbox app. I really want this game on PC but want to play with my Xbox console friends.

[Jeemy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DanAmrich_DE:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย M͂͒̀λgi͡caℓ Ήo͓̽ﻇo̴:

Horrible move by your overlords. Delays r always a good things.

After talking to hundreds if not thousands of fans for whom this is the highlight of their year...strong disagree. We will follow with a fast patch.

How fast of a patch are we talking? Within the first week? First month? Because the game will be super populated on release but the player base will dwindle substantially with each passing week. Not because of the game's quality, mind you, but because most people will finish the game in that period of time and move on. It'll pick up again if you guys have DLC levels planned for the future, but the release month would be the best possible time to have more than 2 player online coop.

[Fideo]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DanAmrich_DE:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Nike:

Cross platform should be a thing any game dropping should have for the longevity of the game.

Getting the first-party companies to even allow this kind of cooperation is relatively new and still rare. Cross-platform play is a really cool feature that some games have managed to pull off -- but most do not. However, because it's so cool when it works, it has quickly become an assumption rather than an exception, and I cannot stress enough that it should not be an expectation for a whole host of reasons, from technicalities to permissions. Great when it can happen -- agreed. Not easy on the back end -- confirmed.

Cross-gen play (PS4 to PS5; Xbox One to Xbox Series) is supported in Rita's Rewind, but cross-platform (PC to PS5, Switch to Xbox) is not.

That problem has already been solved by EPIC, their online libraries are accepted by Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo and luckily or unfortunately everything is accepted by Valve.
Whether you use those libraries or not it's your decision, but for online gaming it is a great option.

Check this:
https://dev.epicgames.com/docs/epic-online-services

[DanAmrich_DE]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jeemy:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DanAmrich_DE:

After talking to hundreds if not thousands of fans for whom this is the highlight of their year...strong disagree. We will follow with a fast patch.

How fast of a patch are we talking? Within the first week? First month?

I'm sorry that I cannot promise a specific time frame, as the update process does not always come with guaranteed time frames -- but we are thinking more in terms of weeks, not months. We're testing internally now; our team is working hard to make it as small a gap as possible, as we know players are really looking forward to this feature (as is the team!).

[0wnz0r]

thanks a lot Dan for bein so honest n open, im sure at least most of us rly appreciate that. hope launch is a success!

[DanAmrich_DE]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Setsuna:

Thanks for answering my question Will this game come out for windows PC? not steam? Or is the PC release only for steam.?

PC release is only planned for Steam at this time.

[Dairak Logrus]

relay without online coop pffffffffffffffff

[Colonel_Hogan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย DanAmrich_DE:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Rizo the Hunter:

Who said it is only two online?

The original plan was 5 online, and that's still the plan -- but at launch, we are targeting two. This is quite honestly because we hit a snag and did not want to delay the game as a whole. So, two is more likely at launch, followed by an update that adds players, back to the original plan of five. It felt like the best compromise -- get the game out there, support what we can, and follow quickly with an upgrade.

FWIW, this is why devs cannot always give a ton of detail on games before release -- things happen, things go wrong, things need to be managed and player expectations won't always align if too much information is shared too early. This is exactly one of those situations that we had not predicted but now have to backtrack. And we don't like that.

So.. heres the thing...
On the STEAM STORE PAGE it DOESNT say online play at all.
It says Shared/Split-Screen and remote-play.
Since remote-play works LIKE ASS in general, I am now highly concerned.

[Wagman]

Parsec is the best application for playing Shared/Splitscreen games online. It basically a third party verison of Remote play, but it works x1000 better. It's the best Screen sharing application right now

[Bavanity]

does the pc version even have online play at all? It's not listed as such on the steam store.