The Banner Saga 2
Agent May 9, 2016 @ 9:15pm
Alette & Overwatch
I've found both TBS and TBS2 to be pretty well balanced in general with a lot of very interesting and synergistic skills. That said, Alette's Thread the Needle skill in TBS1 was about the weakest and very, very rarely useful. But I think Stoic went kinda overcompensating on her new skill in TBS2. Level 3 Overwatch is an "I win" button. Level up Alette as fast as possible to 10 and, boom, you become essentially untouchable because it does a minimum of 3 damage to every unit which moves into range... and there are easily obtainable "Knockback on STR 3 attack" items out there. So most enemies (not being ranged) can't get into attack you ever again.

I, uh, think this should probably be changed somehow so that you can't trigger knockback on Overwatch? Or something?
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Giantbore Jun 15, 2016 @ 8:56am 
This seems to have been fixed with the June 9th patch. Is it still working the "broken" way for anyone? My Alette only does a maximum of guaranteed damage of 2 now, even in saved games from before where she used to do the max of 3 with knockback.
Last edited by Giantbore; Jun 15, 2016 @ 8:57am
Giopeppe Jun 15, 2016 @ 9:56am 
Ha! Now we should Use Gunnulf alla beefed up with a 1/2 STR Resist and Eywind to mend his armor (and i've fount it quite faster!).

I also like to stuck a skulker launching slinger in the corner, forcing it to rest/spawn skulker.
Atma Jun 15, 2016 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Giantbore:
This seems to have been fixed with the June 9th patch. Is it still working the "broken" way for anyone? My Alette only does a maximum of guaranteed damage of 2 now, even in saved games from before where she used to do the max of 3 with knockback.

Yep, ability now reads "Strength damage +2" for the tooltip of max rank Overwatch.

Welp, guess I'll be doing battle #40 again for the achievements that weren't working when I did this yesterday w/out her OPwatch.
Agent Jun 17, 2016 @ 4:36am 
Cool. I finished the game some time ago but I'm sure I'll replay it before a potential sequel, and this will make it more challenging.
Ailes Jun 22, 2016 @ 6:12am 
I played on easy, but yeah when I realized the Overwatch + knockback (spearmen, varl or horseborn kicking people around) combos you can pull off combat certainly felt way easier than before. This, and killing everyone in one round with Bolverk and "Cull the Weak".
Last edited by Ailes; Jun 22, 2016 @ 6:12am
Shoggoth  [developer] Jun 23, 2016 @ 4:13pm 
Originally posted by kazooki117:
The big issue is really just the combination of overwatch and how it interacts with kill/push. If they remove that combination then Overwatch will go from completely broken to merely powerful, as it won't skip enemy turns, which is where the real problem lies.
I just updated the build to 2.30.128.

This changes Alette's Overwatch to be capable of missing like a normal strength attack.

I also added a section the save game file, labelled "survival_record". This section is a JSON object that describes the stats and outcomes of each survival battle. You can share these sections to other players to allow a detailed description of your party strategy. Since it is well formed JSON, it would be possible to create a JavaScript renderer for it.
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Date Posted: May 9, 2016 @ 9:15pm
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