Against All Odds

[[σβ] nageler]

Anyone beat this and have any advice? I have an import Rook with 3Brk, game set to easy, but I can't seem to win. I just don't have enough killing power to weaken enough of them before I get boxed into a corner. I get why, but it is a bit irritating that Rook isn't at full strength and doesn't keep his item.

[Sloul Des Tucs]

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You should have your items from previous game.
What fight are you refering to?
Use the heavy hitters varl and their whirlwind attack.
Mogr on the first line is also very much welcome.
Egil is very cool, but nowadays AI seems to ignore him if he is all shield up, so...

[Белый Кот]

Characters don't use items on tutorial mission and Rook does not use it during Against All Odds. 3 break and 11 str is the best you can have here.

Still it's not too hard with such stats - just don't go to corners, instead stay in center, making enemies block each other, so most will skip turns. And get away from those who will act in next 2 turns.

2Sloul
It's a mission where Rook is alone against ~8 dredges, it starts just after tutorial.

[Sloul Des Tucs]

Oh... got it... you are speaking of the 2nd combat.
I wonder if you can beat that in norm.

[Kivivarvas]

you can beat it. you just gotta be careful so you don`t get surrounded, and look at the turn order.

[Elowen]

After you start the battle, hit escape and load the resume save. Rook's item should be active then.

You don't really need the item, though, it just makes the process faster. Rook not being at full strength is also pretty much irrelevant, since the way to do this is to dance around the dredge while removing their armor. You don't ever need to take a single hit during the battle.

Just keep track of the next 2-3 Dredge in the turn order and you should never get trapped.

[King Banhammer]

Be constantly aware of what the next two moves are going to be. Go ahead and kill the two smaller dredge, especially the slinger. Stay out of reach (again, especially of the slinger!). Save the willpower for emergency movement points.

It takes nigh-constant movement and awareness to make it work, but it's doable.

[rumpelstiltskin]

Originally posted by ya.bym5:

Characters don't use items on tutorial mission and Rook does not use it during Against All Odds. 3 break and 11 str is the best you can have here.

you get the items back if you quit and resume from a save, or just load the last save before the fight ends. you can can replay any fight like that actually, so i'm assuming it's a legitimate thing (i mean the replaying part, not that particular issue with the items)

[[σβ] nageler]

Finally pulled it off-and without any items, since the save-reload didn't pop them back in for me. Thanks for the tips, all. That was an intense little fight! Anyone pull if off on hard?

[rumpelstiltskin]

Originally posted by σβ nageler:

Finally pulled it off-and without any items, since the save-reload didn't pop them back in for me. Thanks for the tips, all. That was an intense little fight! Anyone pull if off on hard?

i did, with a +3brk item after a reload. i was doing kind of alright the first time, until i overlooked one dude and took a proverbial arrow in the knee. it might have still been salvageable, but would have taken ages with my cripped damage, so i reloaded.

[Giopeppe]

it's doable also on hard without any items, just take quite a lot of time and trial and error.

[animepencil]

It's all about monitoring the turn order. The more dredge on the map, the more turns you have to dance around the ones at the end of the turn order. This isn't a fight you end quickly. It's about patients and knowing where to stand. Keep your distance from the slinger till after his turn. Smack his armor down after he moves, he'll run off and you can proceed in widdling down the others. If you believe you're going to get hit next round, see if you can do as much strength damage to the on coming dredge to reduce damage or force it to do armor damage. Losing strength will severely slow down the fight. But this fight is very do-able on hard difficulty.

[FAVelour]

took me about an hour and a half but I was able to do it with canon start rook and his crappy 2 armor break. I actually killed the slinger on the earliest turn possible and managed just fine, that guy is real annoying.

[Inardesco]

Originally posted by ya.bym5:

It's a mission where Rook is alone against ~8 dredges, it starts just after tutorial.

I let Rook charge in due to the loss of Alette, then the cavalry showed up and whiped the rest of the dredge. Rook got a mace to the face but hey, a father that's just lost his only daughter doesn't really think much about his own safety.