dreamscape calling

[E.Rimed]

im on the dreamsacape calling challenge, i have to generate 40000 faith, ive been playing 15 hours , and im still only on 7000. how am i meant to generate tat much faith

[E.Rimed]

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

E.Rimed lähetti viestin:

thank you so much for taing te time to reply, but please excuse my ignorance , i only founf the game 3 days ago. when you say tier 1 and tier 2 followers, so you mean from when you have to upgrade the house to make them tier 2 ?, and the level is just how long the follower has been woking in there ? so are you sayig its easier to build up thr faith before moving onto the additinal cows, and ale etc.

your are right and no worries most us could only play since monday and everyboday has other things to do too..

yeah tier 1 to tier 2 is the upgraded houses
and if you put the right follower in right building ie lumberjack into the lumberjack and so on their will increas their lvl which makes them work faster and they more zeal mor sacrifices... it is very usefull later but in the beginning not really needed
example
a clam fishery have 3 people working there if you put 3 random people who are not clam fishers into the house you will get 1.5 clam the minute ( enough for around 25 followers)
if you put 3 followers who are clam fisher and wait until they lvl 4 you will get 1.7 clam the minute
you see it is not really worth it
so what i mean is that you have to try to have a little production as possible........
you can for example build 3 clam fisheries stock up on clam then pause production and use then switch to corn stock that up and switch to robes and if you have enough of everything just pause all production and let them pray in the temple for fanatcism

in this way you have the lowest cost possible with max income possible.....

i hope this is not to confusing ask if anything is unclear

*edit
btw the advisor told you all of this remember the line
" if you miss essentials goods build additional production and reasign workers even of the cost of other production" or alsmost something like that 1 or 2 words are different.......... Not everything is just for flavor

thank you, and yes i know understand the tier 1 and tier 2, so another question if you dont mind, thank you fr your help btw :) ...... havent worked out how to screenshot yet,
so i started yesterday - housed all my followers as thet come , so i think well over 200 followes, only have 2 islands as cant progress until i do this dam faith. that island has excess faith of about 1000-2000 but only at 7000 faith. i started again this morning, new game as i thought ive gone wrong somewhere and its taking me forever to get the faith, read to not house all followers, im onto tier 2 with that island. but thats only generting about 800 faith, and only at 3000 faith.
shall i stick with either of these islnds, or try third times a charm, and do as you sau move my workers around , and not have workers in each factory.
thanks

[fwoahallo]

E.Rimed lähetti viestin:

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

your are right and no worries most us could only play since monday and everyboday has other things to do too..

yeah tier 1 to tier 2 is the upgraded houses
and if you put the right follower in right building ie lumberjack into the lumberjack and so on their will increas their lvl which makes them work faster and they more zeal mor sacrifices... it is very usefull later but in the beginning not really needed
example
a clam fishery have 3 people working there if you put 3 random people who are not clam fishers into the house you will get 1.5 clam the minute ( enough for around 25 followers)
if you put 3 followers who are clam fisher and wait until they lvl 4 you will get 1.7 clam the minute
you see it is not really worth it
so what i mean is that you have to try to have a little production as possible........
you can for example build 3 clam fisheries stock up on clam then pause production and use then switch to corn stock that up and switch to robes and if you have enough of everything just pause all production and let them pray in the temple for fanatcism

in this way you have the lowest cost possible with max income possible.....

i hope this is not to confusing ask if anything is unclear

*edit
btw the advisor told you all of this remember the line
" if you miss essentials goods build additional production and reasign workers even of the cost of other production" or alsmost something like that 1 or 2 words are different.......... Not everything is just for flavor

thank you, and yes i know understand the tier 1 and tier 2, so another question if you dont mind, thank you fr your help btw :) ...... havent worked out how to screenshot yet,
so i started yesterday - housed all my followers as thet come , so i think well over 200 followes, only have 2 islands as cant progress until i do this dam faith. that island has excess faith of about 1000-2000 but only at 7000 faith. i started again this morning, new game as i thought ive gone wrong somewhere and its taking me forever to get the faith, read to not house all followers, im onto tier 2 with that island. but thats only generting about 800 faith, and only at 3000 faith.
shall i stick with either of these islnds, or try third times a charm, and do as you sau move my workers around , and not have workers in each factory.
thanks

unforuantlly this depens on you.... i think you still can save you run with a little work and Zeal ^^ but it will take time and effort it would be easier to start over but then you could into another problem and we are back at the beginiing it could also went much smother
TL;DR
Save the run = more time and effort
Restart = esier start but high risk of waste more time later

i can only tell how i did it
if i run into any issues and figuered out the solution and it would be better to use that knowlage from the start ..... i just restart
really it took me about 12h to finish chapter one but because it took me so long but i must have restart more than 30 times and every time i got better but run into an issue latter up to the point now where i now really rush it if i wanted but thats just me as i said it depens on you and how you aporch things


for the screenshots if havent change F12 is screenshots form steam there now in you steam libaray you can acces them view the top left "view" and then screenshots

[Murderhorse]

None of these conversations seem like the right answer to me. I just did the tutorial, and at this point during the tutorial the game prompted me that it was an unrealistic amount of faith to generate and I'd have to make a pyre.

Build a sacrificial pyre and start burning your excess cows and steaks. Build two if your economy allows.

[fwoahallo]

Murderhorse lähetti viestin:

None of these conversations seem like the right answer to me. I just did the tutorial, and at this point the game prompted me that it was an unrealistic amount of faith to generate and I'd have to make a pyre.

Build a sacrificial pyre and start burning your excess cows and steaks. Build two if your economy allows.

or burn the fungus to get even more but thats not the root cause just a temporary fix

[E.Rimed]

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

Murderhorse lähetti viestin:

None of these conversations seem like the right answer to me. I just did the tutorial, and at this point the game prompted me that it was an unrealistic amount of faith to generate and I'd have to make a pyre.

Build a sacrificial pyre and start burning your excess cows and steaks. Build two if your economy allows.

or burn the fungus to get even more but thats not the root cause just a temporary fix

so had another go, started with not housing all the followers, but i dont think that is right, as its the housed followers that generate faith, so if you dont house them then no faith generated. put a few hours in it, and im still only at 4000 faith, i have about 4 cow farms, and butchers, and 4 sacrifice piles burning fungus, cows and steaks. but i feel its impossible to get to the 40000 or is it 400000 faith.

[fwoahallo]

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

E.Rimed lähetti viestin:

so had another go, started with not housing all the followers, but i dont think that is right, as its the housed followers that generate faith, so if you dont house them then no faith generated. put a few hours in it, and im still only at 4000 faith, i have about 4 cow farms, and butchers, and 4 sacrifice piles burning fungus, cows and steaks. but i feel its impossible to get to the 40000 or is it 400000 faith.

sorry to aks but are you trieing to increase your income or the amount of faith because you need only 40000 faith not income with 4000 faith income wait 10 min or 3,3 on 3x speed ^^

[Tikigod]

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

Tikigod lähetti viestin:

Again, it has absolutely no actual meaning.

It's flavour descriptive text.

If you have actual functional information about how the mechanics of the game result in generating more faith by having more homeless than compared to having all of that same population housed and all their needs met, then by all means share it.

But just quoting ambiguous developer flavour text and going "This means what I want it to mean so I'm right" has zero constructive or informative use to the discussion.

you would be right but these are not game desricptions..... these are real answers here from the froum on questions..... so you are arcussing the devs to write us meaningless replies. Do you really think that

They are just surface flavour descriptions.

They contain zero mechanical or functional information, nor do they actually state that having homeless people just generates more faith than having the same number of everyone housed with all their needs met, like the meaning you've attached to the statements because it matched your existing assumptions.

The first quote you shared is more suggestive of the idea that there's no negative punishment mechanic to having homeless people if you're strapped for space on some islands. Yep that's true. But that doesn't have anything to do with faith or that having more homeless generates you more faith.

The second quote really is just flavour text completely and fully. Appearing to really just mean that the developers don't want to outright state how certain mechanics work.
Which I can certainly understand because once they start outright saying how mechanics function then people shift their natural reaction to game systems, start to min/max everything even when it's not necessary and the developers lose a valuable source of indirect feedback by just watching the assumptions people make when not told how things work.

[fwoahallo]

Tikigod lähetti viestin:

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

you would be right but these are not game desricptions..... these are real answers here from the froum on questions..... so you are arcussing the devs to write us meaningless replies. Do you really think that

They are just surface flavour descriptions.

They contain zero mechanical or functional information, nor do they actually state that having homeless people just generates more faith than having the same number of everyone housed with all their needs met, like the meaning you've attached to the statements because it matched your existing assumptions.

The first quote you shared is more suggestive of the idea that there's no negative punishment mechanic to having homeless people if you're strapped for space on some islands. Yep that's true. But that doesn't have anything to do with faith or that having more homeless generates you more faith.

The second quote really is just flavour text completely and fully. Appearing to really just mean that the developers don't want to outright state how certain mechanics work.
Which I can certainly understand because once they start outright saying how mechanics function then people shift their natural reaction to game systems, start to min/max everything even when it's not necessary and the developers lose a valuable source of indirect feedback by just watching the assumptions people make when not told how things work.

when did i said that more homeless means more faith i didnt... you just assumed it base on the fact that i asked about the number and said that you dont have to house everyone... thas alll

there was nothing said that more homeless = more faith

you just assumed it..... so please

get back to the tpoic and show us numbers and strats and not say that the dev as telling us meaning less stuff... just imanige the backlash........ so now this is enough off topic as i said either help or please ignor

[E.Rimed]

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

sorry to aks but are you trieing to increase your income or the amount of faith because you need only 40000 faith not income with 4000 faith income wait 10 min or 3,3 on 3x speed ^^

OMG i am so dumb, so loaded it up this morning, and straight away did the sacrafice of 3 tier 2 workers, and quest completed straiht away !!! i dont know what i was thinking, i coukd have done that HOURS ago

[Tikigod]

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

Tikigod lähetti viestin:

They are just surface flavour descriptions.

They contain zero mechanical or functional information, nor do they actually state that having homeless people just generates more faith than having the same number of everyone housed with all their needs met, like the meaning you've attached to the statements because it matched your existing assumptions.

The first quote you shared is more suggestive of the idea that there's no negative punishment mechanic to having homeless people if you're strapped for space on some islands. Yep that's true. But that doesn't have anything to do with faith or that having more homeless generates you more faith.

The second quote really is just flavour text completely and fully. Appearing to really just mean that the developers don't want to outright state how certain mechanics work.
Which I can certainly understand because once they start outright saying how mechanics function then people shift their natural reaction to game systems, start to min/max everything even when it's not necessary and the developers lose a valuable source of indirect feedback by just watching the assumptions people make when not told how things work.

when did i said that more homeless means more faith i didnt... you just assumed it base on the fact that i asked about the number and said that you dont have to house everyone... thas alll

there was nothing said that more homeless = more faith

you just assumed it..... so please

get back to the tpoic and show us numbers and strats and not say that the dev as telling us meaning less stuff... just imanige the backlash........ so now this is enough off topic as i said either help or please ignor

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Go back and read you telling people "More people doesn't mean more faith, it's much more complicated than that as this isn't Anno".

And when I stated that actually it is that simple as if they're housed and all their needs met more population does == more faith, which you then tried to counterpoint with a frivolous quote from the developers that had nothing to do with faith generation mechanics and saying "Whilst you're not wrong, you're wrong".


Then also read how when I pointed out that your quote said nothing about faith and was ambiguous flavour text with no meaning on the subject, you replied with just copy and pasting another ambiguous statement, saying how it establishes your point and followed up with:

"and why do i got much more faith after i stoped to try to house everyone.... iam just wondering"

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It's great you realised that your original stance of trying to correct other posts stating that housing more population and providing to their needs leads to more faith income, and stating that isn't right was wrong.
But don't try to act like you never made such claims and brush it off with "People just making assumptions" when you actively tried to correct posts that were correct by you incorrectly applying quotes from developers making ambiguous statements that it seems you now realise don't mean what you thought they did.


Myself and another person gave direct advise to the OP about how to generate more faith, what brought it off topic and didn't remotely help was your attempts to try "Correct" such posts with misinformation whilst providing nothing of substance to explain such opposition.

[fwoahallo]

Tikigod lähetti viestin:

fwoahallo lähetti viestin:

when did i said that more homeless means more faith i didnt... you just assumed it base on the fact that i asked about the number and said that you dont have to house everyone... thas alll

there was nothing said that more homeless = more faith

you just assumed it..... so please

get back to the tpoic and show us numbers and strats and not say that the dev as telling us meaning less stuff... just imanige the backlash........ so now this is enough off topic as i said either help or please ignor

......

Go back and read you telling people "More people doesn't mean more faith, it's much more complicated than that as this isn't Anno".

And when I stated that actually it is that simple as if they're housed and all their needs met more population does == more faith, which you then tried to counterpoint with a frivolous quote from the developers that had nothing to do with faith generation mechanics and saying "Whilst you're not wrong, you're wrong".


Then also read how when I pointed out that your quote said nothing about faith and was ambiguous flavour text with no meaning on the subject, you replied with just copy and pasting another ambiguous statement, saying how it establishes your point and followed up with:

"and why do i got much more faith after i stoped to try to house everyone.... iam just wondering"

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It's great you realised that your original stance of trying to correct other posts stating that housing more population and providing to their needs leads to more faith income, and stating that isn't right was wrong.
But don't try to act like you never made such claims and brush it off with "People just making assumptions" when you actively tried to correct posts that were correct by you incorrectly applying quotes from developers making ambiguous statements that it seems you now realise don't mean what you thought they did.


Myself and another person gave direct advise to the OP about how to generate more faith, what brought it off topic and didn't remotely help was your attempts to try "Correct" such posts with misinformation whilst providing nothing of substance to explain such opposition.

so you aknowlagaded that i never said that " more homeless equal = more faith "

you make a great argument why i could be that what you deducted is true...

but the fact is ... it isnt ...... i said it more complicated and i stoped housing everone not that more homeless = more faith

but i can say what i want you know better that me what my own words mean and what are my intentions where.......

this was my last response to that because it is against the rules to stay off topic...

so maybe think about it