What is so wrong about the HD models

[Knicksi38]

I don't understand why everybody hate the HD models in my opinion they are better than the original models

[Mλrtin2H]

good for you. all opinions are subjective.

[gaming56798]

Originally posted by knicksi38:

I don't understand why everybody hate the HD models in my opinion they are better than the original models

i agree with this statement

[wadmodder1999]

Also, the version of the HD models included in Half-Life Source are a fan-made HD model pack, instead of the original Gearbox HD models, meaning that Valve couldn't get access to the original HD models from Gearbox's archives, or maybe because Gearbox lost the original HD model masters & templates used in Blue Shift, the PS2 version of Half-Life, and even the unreleased Dreamcast port.

[PSYCHIC HIVEMIND CYCLIST DEATH]

Originally posted by knicksi38:

I don't understand why everybody hate the HD models in my opinion they are better than the original models

they suck

[Knicksi38]

How do they suck there are better than the original models

[Aether]

There are a lot of people who hate the HD pack for only the fact it doesn't reflect the SD pack well. Some people get really worked up over some of the models (like the pistol and SMG) being replaced with entirely different weapons.

The HD pack isn't inherently "bad" it's just people don't like what they've done with some weapons.

I genuinely prefer both the HD and SD models for different reasons, but whichever I use is really up to how I'm feeling. Although I will admit that I somewhat wish Gearbox or whomever was in charge of the HD models kept the MP5 and Glock.

[mustard_chugger69]

people just don't use the hd because either 1. nostalgia 2. likes the low quality's aesthetic more

[Cat]

i'm only playing without HD for nostalgia

[UmbralPenumbra]

The HD/non-HD models in HLS look different from GoldSrc in certain ways
So it's almost like you have 4 versions of the guns

[GrO]

Originally posted by wadmodder1999:

Also, the version of the HD models included in Half-Life Source are a fan-made HD model pack, instead of the original Gearbox HD models, meaning that Valve couldn't get access to the original HD models from Gearbox's archives, or maybe because Gearbox lost the original HD model masters & templates used in Blue Shift, the PS2 version of Half-Life, and even the unreleased Dreamcast port.

Your statement is completely incorrect mate. The HD pack used in HL:S is mainly the GearBox one edited by a guy named Stone, who used some files from 'community-created improvement pack', and with a contribution from a guy named Fishman.

Look at the credits: https://gamebanana.com/mods/239220

...and here you can obtain more info about the initial HD pack for HL:

https://half-life.fandom.com/wiki/Half-Life_High_Definition_Pack

Besides all that, even if all copies would be lost, the GoldSrc HD files could be easily recovered from 'Blue Shift', because MDL (model), VMT (valve material type) and VTF (valve texture format) files are not encrypted and can be decompiled/edited with some appropriate software; 'Blender' for MDL files, 'VTFEdit' for VMT and VTF files (the latter one may be edited even with 'Notepad').

There are also other small files associated to the models that I didn't mention (PHY, ANI, VTX and VVD), but they're also not encrypted thus there's no need for any extra archives, 'master' or template files.

[BulbmanX]

One of the main reasons is because it detracts from the "realism" in the game, I know sounds ridiculous considering the aliens , secret facility, and government coverups... well that last part is realistic XD, but keep in mind when this game came out it was considered to be far more "realistic" than other shooters, ie more real AI, needing to reload weapons, guns that don't spin hovering in the air. So as to how it makes the game less realistic, in OG HL the "smg" is an mp5SD, which fires 9mm rounds just like the Glock17, aka the handgun, that's why the guns share ammo. The HD pack uses an M4 for the "smg" and a Beretta 92fs for the handgun, while the 92fs fires 9mm rounds, the M4 fires 5.56x45 rounds, so it makes no sense for them to share ammo. Far as the NPC models go they're an all round improvement, except IMO the SD zombie model looks "scarier" the way you can see the skull under the headcrabs skin

[GrO]

Originally posted by BulbmanX:

One of the main reasons is because it detracts from the "realism" in the game, I know sounds ridiculous considering the aliens , secret facility, and government coverups... well that last part is realistic XD, but keep in mind when this game came out it was considered to be far more "realistic" than other shooters, ie more real AI, needing to reload weapons, guns that don't spin hovering in the air. So as to how it makes the game less realistic, in OG HL the "smg" is an mp5SD, which fires 9mm rounds just like the Glock17, aka the handgun, that's why the guns share ammo. The HD pack uses an M4 for the "smg" and a Beretta 92fs for the handgun, while the 92fs fires 9mm rounds, the M4 fires 5.56x45 rounds, so it makes no sense for them to share ammo. Far as the NPC models go they're an all round improvement, except IMO the SD zombie model looks "scarier" the way you can see the skull under the headcrabs skin

...some good points you've mentioned here and we can easily say, that HL:S HD version has never been finished, because valve never did care about that port. HD content would never exist in this game without the community and GearBox.

Personally I like high quality, but I also like when everything mutually suits together and I can't say that about HL:S with the HD content enabled.

[smoking addiction]

boomers

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Mλrtin2H:

All opinions are subjective.

/ thread.

[UmbralPenumbra]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

/ thread.

No, subjective and opinion aren't synonyms