FOMO in Early Access? Are you serious?

[Sterlander]

Really? Nobody wants FOMO bs. My enjoyment for a game goes down significantly if I feel I have to attend and play every single event for fear of missing out of rewards I'll never be able to get again.

Why are we starting FOMO holiday events already?? Really disappointing, just focus on finishing the game.

[Sterlander]

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You can literally log in and play for 1 day and get the whole set, hell you can play for 5 minutes and get a hat.

Can players a year from now get one of these hats by playing for 5 minutes? No? So, less content for new players to achieve and be rewarded with?

[Swamp]

If you want to really get in to it, having highscores is "FOMO" by your definition.

EXPERIENCE would be FOMO.

GOLD would be FOMO.

So like, is gold fomo now? There's a "FEAR OF MISSING OUT" from playing earlier and earning more gold, is that what you're saying?

Yes = Okay in-game currency = fomo you're right *eyeroll*

No = Exactly, play early get more gold for playing sooner. No different than special items now again stfu and admit there is no fomo (of this deal) cuz there is no deal just play the game.

[Swamp]

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Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

You can literally log in and play for 1 day and get the whole set, hell you can play for 5 minutes and get a hat.

Can players a year from now get one of these hats by playing for 5 minutes? No? So, less content for new players to achieve and be rewarded with?

Should players that have played for 5 minutes have the same benefits of players that have played for years?

EDIT: Also yes if we're allowed to actually trade them. They can get one if they pay for it ;) If don't want them tradeable then no, they shoulda played and got the untradeable holiday items when it was around. Why should scrubs that don't support the game be able to act like they supported the game from the start?

Now you're just devaluing MY time effort and (potentially) money.

Nah I'm good, ♥♥♥♥ that ♥♥♥♥ they weren't here from the start. If they want to pretend to then they need to grind their asses off and pay me for it otherwise nah, I'll keep my dozen entire sets of holiday items for myself whilst collecting all other items myself in the future.

[Sterlander]

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

If you want to really get in to it, having highscores is "FOMO" by your definition.

EXPERIENCE would be FOMO.

GOLD would be FOMO.

So like, is gold fomo now? There's a "FEAR OF MISSING OUT" from playing earlier and earning more gold, is that what you're saying?

Yes = Okay in-game currency = fomo you're right *eyeroll*

No = Exactly, play early get more gold for playing sooner. No different than special items now again stfu and admit there is no fomo (of this deal) cuz there is no deal just play the game.

Levels can always be earned. Gold can always be earned. Imagine if you could only reach level 500 in professions for the first year they're released, and after that you could never reach level 500 again? If you didn't make it within the first year, sucks to suck, you don't get that anymore.

Look at OSRS. It has none of this. The only thing it has even remotely similar to this are the Leagues trophies, and there's a new Leagues every year, so every year all players have an equal opportunity to earn whatever tier of trophy they want.

[Swamp]

Escrito originalmente por Sterlander:

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

If you want to really get in to it, having highscores is "FOMO" by your definition.

EXPERIENCE would be FOMO.

GOLD would be FOMO.

So like, is gold fomo now? There's a "FEAR OF MISSING OUT" from playing earlier and earning more gold, is that what you're saying?

Yes = Okay in-game currency = fomo you're right *eyeroll*

No = Exactly, play early get more gold for playing sooner. No different than special items now again stfu and admit there is no fomo (of this deal) cuz there is no deal just play the game.

Levels can always be earned. Gold can always be earned. Imagine if you could only reach level 500 in professions for the first year they're released, and after that you could never reach level 500 again? If you didn't make it within the first year, sucks to suck, you don't get that anymore.

Look at OSRS. It has none of this. The only thing it has even remotely similar to this are the Leagues trophies, and there's a new Leagues every year, so every year all players have an equal opportunity to earn whatever tier of trophy they want.

Imagine getting 500 in a skill and then 5 minutes after creating an account you get 500 in said skill a year or two later.

Yeah no sorry not sorry it does suck to suck I reckon. Let them suck for a couple of weeks and cringe from not being here through all the EA BS and only coming when the game was good and easy.

[Sterlander]

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

Escrito originalmente por Sterlander:

Levels can always be earned. Gold can always be earned. Imagine if you could only reach level 500 in professions for the first year they're released, and after that you could never reach level 500 again? If you didn't make it within the first year, sucks to suck, you don't get that anymore.

Look at OSRS. It has none of this. The only thing it has even remotely similar to this are the Leagues trophies, and there's a new Leagues every year, so every year all players have an equal opportunity to earn whatever tier of trophy they want.

Imagine getting 500 in a skill and then 5 minutes after creating an account you get 500 in said skill a year or two later.

Yeah no sorry not sorry it does suck to suck I reckon. Let them suck for a couple of weeks and cringe from not being here through all the EA BS and only coming when the game was good and easy.

So where do we draw the line then? It's okay to have 5 minute long, zero-effort things be limited time, never able to be unlocked again? What about things that take an hour? Two hours? A few days, a week?

You better hope it stays as low effort as this Christmas event is. Better hope it doesn't escalate into them wanting you to grind the game super hard for something that's limited time, over fear of. y'know. missing out

[Swamp]

We all have lots of dupes, they will all have their chance to obtain said items if tradeable (which tbh they will be with all of the dupes, trust trading or not) and then well, makes all of what you say moot then.

I'll trade your OG hat for your scrub hat if you buy my lvl 1 logs for 1g each. Want my hat? Buy the logs first, you want the hat more than I need the gold cuz *gasp* I've been playing longer and already have plenty of gold.

Yes, plenty will et scammed, that's why they should either be tradeable directly for gold (why else would we have dupes?) or completely untradeable in which case even more reason to keep them that way. Why should a 5 min player be able to have access to items the same as a several years long player?

[Sterlander]

OSRS is nice. I've been playing on my account for almost 10 years now. I've taken 1-2 year long breaks from it. And guess what? I come back, and my account is exactly as I left it. My goals are all still there, everything I wanted to earn is still there. And there's even new stuff to earn and work towards!

I don't sign into OSRS and go "aw. I missed a bunch of ♥♥♥♥"

[Swamp]

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Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

Imagine getting 500 in a skill and then 5 minutes after creating an account you get 500 in said skill a year or two later.

Yeah no sorry not sorry it does suck to suck I reckon. Let them suck for a couple of weeks and cringe from not being here through all the EA BS and only coming when the game was good and easy.

So where do we draw the line then? It's okay to have 5 minute long, zero-effort things be limited time, never able to be unlocked again? What about things that take an hour? Two hours? A few days, a week?

You better hope it stays as low effort as this Christmas event is. Better hope it doesn't escalate into them wanting you to grind the game super hard for something that's limited time, over fear of. y'know. missing out

We draw the line at keeping them unobtainable after the event like they are; tradeable for those that want them like people want, and then go about our day like I said.

Yes, 5 minute never-again things are fine when they're like a month long. If you can't/won't log in for 5 minutes out of 43,200 (1 month) then no, you don't deserve it. Even better how it is now when you can obtain unlimited multiples to trade to future players that want them so that *gasp* they cannnnn actually obtain them..?

I don't hope for anything, the game will be what the game will be. If I miss out on an event then well ♥♥♥♥, it's my fault for not logging in for 5 minutes to get my own item ain't it?

[Sterlander]

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

We draw the line at keeping them unobtainable after the event like they are; tradeable for those that want them like people want, and then go about our day like I said.

Yes, 5 minute never-again things are fine when they're like a month long. If you can't/won't log in for 5 minutes out of 43,200 (1 month) then no, you don't deserve it. Even better how it is now when you can obtain unlimited multiples to trade to future players that want them so that *gasp* they cannnnn actually obtain them..?

I don't hope for anything, the game will be what the game will be. If I miss out on an event then well ♥♥♥♥, it's my fault for not logging in for 5 minutes to get my own item ain't it?

Pardon me if this sounds rude but this kinda just comes off as sucker behavior? The devs are making you be a sucker to their limited time BS. Instead of having permanent content that's always in the game for you to earn, they want you to login on a frequent basis and claim what is essentially login bonuses. Doesn't that makes you their sucker?

[Swamp]

Escrito originalmente por Sterlander:

OSRS is nice. I've been playing on my account for almost 10 years now. I've taken 1-2 year long breaks from it. And guess what? I come back, and my account is exactly as I left it. My goals are all still there, everything I wanted to earn is still there. And there's even new stuff to earn and work towards!

I don't sign into OSRS and go "aw. I missed a bunch of ♥♥♥♥"

OSRS sucks, it's mostly bots with absolutely nothing to actually work towards and a sprinkle of PvP wannabes that either no/low risk or telly after spec failed. Only reason it has done well is because it's easy af and RS3 shields it from being heavily monetized.

Your goals are still there but if you wanna get fr, OSRS is EZscape compared to actual RS2. Lemme just play for 5 mins and get 10b to buy skills and gear...


Owait, lol I can!

[Sterlander]

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

OSRS sucks, it's mostly bots with absolutely nothing to actually work towards and a sprinkle of PvP wannabes that either no/low risk or telly after spec failed. Only reason it has done well is because it's easy af and RS3 shields it from being heavily monetized.

Your goals are still there but if you wanna get fr, OSRS is EZscape compared to actual RS2. Lemme just play for 5 mins and get 10b to buy skills and gear...


Owait, lol I can!

So true, OSRS is EZscape. I think I'll play Brighter Shores instead, where I can login every couple months for holiday hats and go right back to passive training literally all my skills. You have a fine taste in hardcore mmo's, I tip my hat to you sir!

[Swamp]

Escrito originalmente por Sterlander:

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

We draw the line at keeping them unobtainable after the event like they are; tradeable for those that want them like people want, and then go about our day like I said.

Yes, 5 minute never-again things are fine when they're like a month long. If you can't/won't log in for 5 minutes out of 43,200 (1 month) then no, you don't deserve it. Even better how it is now when you can obtain unlimited multiples to trade to future players that want them so that *gasp* they cannnnn actually obtain them..?

I don't hope for anything, the game will be what the game will be. If I miss out on an event then well ♥♥♥♥, it's my fault for not logging in for 5 minutes to get my own item ain't it?

Pardon me if this sounds rude but this kinda just comes off as sucker behavior. The devs are making you be a sucker to their limited time BS. Instead of having permanent content that's always in the game for you to earn, they want you to login on a frequent basis and claim what is essentially login bonuses. Doesn't that makes you their sucker?

Oof, sorry if this sounds rude but maybe you don't realize the game is in Early Access? The devs are acknowledging the game needs tweaks and improvements and are doing so due to feedback. Instead of having content that anyone can complete in 5 minutes in spite of wanting to take years (which failed already, devs underestimated current MMO players), they want you to actually play at least a couple of weeks/months and claim what is essentially *more* than just login bonuses and handing everything to new players for free because as we all know; that just burns players out? Whilst also rewarding initial supporters of said game for sticking around even if they're not actually supporting/paying to play? Doesn't that make you a zoomer for not wanting to play a game for longer than 5 minutes?

[Swamp]

Escrito originalmente por Sterlander:

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

OSRS sucks, it's mostly bots with absolutely nothing to actually work towards and a sprinkle of PvP wannabes that either no/low risk or telly after spec failed. Only reason it has done well is because it's easy af and RS3 shields it from being heavily monetized.

Your goals are still there but if you wanna get fr, OSRS is EZscape compared to actual RS2. Lemme just play for 5 mins and get 10b to buy skills and gear...


Owait, lol I can!

So true, OSRS is EZscape. I think I'll play Brighter Shores instead, where I can login every couple months for holiday hats and go right back to passive training literally all my skills. You have a fine taste in hardcore mmo's, I tip my hat to you sir!

Fine with me, even on osrs/rs3/many other mmo's players do the same thing and have fun enjoying it. Especially when said items are yaknow, actually exclusive and not given out every single time which would "apparently" be the only reason you would log in. guess you'd have no reason to even log in anymore then would you?

[Sterlander]

Escrito originalmente por Swamp:

Oof, sorry if this sounds rude but maybe you don't realize the game is in Early Access? The devs are acknowledging the game needs tweaks and improvements and are doing so due to feedback. Instead of having content that anyone can complete in 5 minutes in spite of wanting to take years (which failed already, devs underestimated current MMO players), they want you to actually play at least a couple of weeks/months and claim what is essentially *more* than just login bonuses and handing everything to new players for free because as we all know; that just burns players out? Whilst also rewarding initial supportes of said game for sticking around even if they're not actually supporting/paying to play? Doesn't that make you a zoomer for not wanting to play a game for longer than 5 minutes?

Mhm, it is in early access, which is why we have to nip problems like this in the bud before they think its okay to keep doing. But instead of criticizing the game, you're being all elitist and defending it to your dying breath for literally no reason. Grow a spine and actually critique the games you like, lol.