Brew an ale with minimum quality of 25?

[N373r]

Hi!

Just started playing, but can't get past that quest - my brewers can't do better than 23 and I can't advance that quest. I think I got all the indicators of the recipy in green and supposed maximum is 28.
Can't figure out the missing step.

[Gullinbursti]

You and me (while playtesting) both! This is a matter of chance as the final quality is rolled the first time a monk or nun brews a recipe. There have been times when none of my brewers could get past the 25 quality score and I had to hire an extra one or two to try with them as well. One of them will eventually get it!

[Gullinbursti]

Would you mind if I asked which quest this one was for? Cause 25 quality from a max 28 quality recipe, might be a bit of a difficult task.

[N373r]

Originally posted by Gullinbursti:

Would you mind if I asked which quest this one was for? Cause 25 quality from a max 28 quality recipe, might be a bit of a difficult task.

It's for the bishop.

https://ibb.co/d4WsFc3T

Every time the best brewer brews quality 23

[Gullinbursti]

Originally posted by N373r:

Originally posted by Gullinbursti:

Would you mind if I asked which quest this one was for? Cause 25 quality from a max 28 quality recipe, might be a bit of a difficult task.

It's for the bishop.

https://ibb.co/d4WsFc3T

Every time the best brewer brews quality 23

Aaaaaah! Yes. So here's the thing: the Bishop's task is not game-breaking in any way. If it didn't happen with this Light Ale, it will probably happen with the recipes or other styles you will unlock. Light Ales - in general - don't have much chance of hitting that 25 quality that easily.

However, if you still want to try and get that task done with, you could try brewing it with all your brewers. It's because the first time[\i] one of your Fermentines brews the recipe it sets the quality for that[\i] brewer. If that one brewer doesn't get a high enough quality score, their following brews of the same recipe will have the same inefficient score. Your only way of dealing with this would be to try and brew with the rest of your brewers until one of them gets a high enough score with their first try.

[N373r]

Yeah, I've truied with at least 8-10 brewers, none of them exceed 23. Also I think the phase when you can research different types of ale has not yet started.
Maybe have to restart. Probably have to follow the "tutorial" word by word.

[Gullinbursti]

Originally posted by N373r:

Yeah, I've truied with at least 8-10 brewers, none of them exceed 23. Also I think the phase when you can research different types of ale has not yet started.
Maybe have to restart. Probably have to follow the "tutorial" word by word.

Oh no! From your screenshot I can tell that you're about to unlock your next style! Brother Maltus will give you a recipe requirement that you need to follow and once successful will unlock the next style for you!

[N373r]

Originally posted by Gullinbursti:

Originally posted by N373r:

Yeah, I've truied with at least 8-10 brewers, none of them exceed 23. Also I think the phase when you can research different types of ale has not yet started.
Maybe have to restart. Probably have to follow the "tutorial" word by word.

Oh no! From your screenshot I can tell that you're about to unlock your next style! Brother Maltus will give you a recipe requirement that you need to follow and once successful will unlock the next style for you!

Ah, thanks - I dismissed the Blonde ale task. Now I can probably advance.

[Morbo]

To me it is also strange that some tasks work when you fullfil the task before it pops up, like build room xy etc. I already got a light ale above 25 with ease but it didnt count as I got the quest couple of minutes later ... So I was doomed to get new workers which of course you cannot afford cause they need new beds, tables etc.

[Gullinbursti]

Originally posted by Morbo:

To me it is also strange that some tasks work when you fullfil the task before it pops up, like build room xy etc. I already got a light ale above 25 with ease but it didnt count as I got the quest couple of minutes later ... So I was doomed to get new workers which of course you cannot afford cause they need new beds, tables etc.

These tasks are just extras to help you getting around, offering some perks, and are not game-breaking. Same with the other comment, this is yet again an example of us not stressing the fact. Thanks for staying on top of these and sharing your concerns.

[Scarab-Phoenix]

Originally posted by Morbo:

To me it is also strange that some tasks work when you fullfil the task before it pops up, like build room xy etc. I already got a light ale above 25 with ease but it didnt count as I got the quest couple of minutes later ... So I was doomed to get new workers which of course you cannot afford cause they need new beds, tables etc.

Brewing beer is a repeatable task so of course it won't register again. If you already made a batch of 25 quality you can simply brew the same ale again.

Also, 25 is a very good quality to have early-game so keep brewing it and you're golden (literally).

[Goldtooth™]

Originally posted by N373r:

Hi!

Just started playing, but can't get past that quest - my brewers can't do better than 23 and I can't advance that quest. I think I got all the indicators of the recipy in green and supposed maximum is 28.
Can't figure out the missing step.

My first brew was 27

[vikpr]

You can get +5 bonus from the researcher (with +3 intellect bonus and +2 satisfaction) and +9 from the library by stuffing it with the 9 book decorations. Naturally it's not obtainable right away but it's pretty easy to get. That should up the maximum quality of the recipe to at least 35 if all values are green, with 40-45 being pretty much constant.
Add hops baskets to the brewery, each basket increases the quality by 1. Later you can unlock the mug shelves deco which add another +1 but you need to keep some lights in the room too so you have to balance what you put in the room. Check out the "crown" value when you select the brewer, that's how much will be added by that brewer to the final result.

[Gullinbursti]

Originally posted by vikpr:

You can get +5 bonus from the researcher (with +3 intellect bonus and +2 satisfaction) and +9 from the library by stuffing it with the 9 book decorations. Naturally it's not obtainable right away but it's pretty easy to get. That should up the maximum quality of the recipe to at least 35 if all values are green, with 40-45 being pretty much constant.
Add hops baskets to the brewery, each basket increases the quality by 1. Later you can unlock the mug shelves deco which add another +1 but you need to keep some lights in the room too so you have to balance what you put in the room. Check out the "crown" value when you select the brewer, that's how much will be added by that brewer to the final result.

This is also a way ;)

[Morbo]

The thing is, your brewmaster having that 27 brew seems to go down by not having enough comfort to a point where you can not brew it again with the given quality ? So with the downward spiral of having not enough satisfaction you will not be able to craft the beer with the given value again or am I wrong ? I mean it will "reset" to some kind of value after idling with the monks but eventually you will run out of money before that cause idling without enough money means bankrput

[Scarab-Phoenix]

Originally posted by Morbo:

but eventually you will run out of money before that cause idling without enough money means bankrput

Why idling then? Just keep on brewing and you won't run out of money.