Demo feedback - Please NO pixel text and UI

[UpInFlames]

I really liked the demo and will wishlist the game, but please, for the love of God and Ale, don't use pixel art for text and UI. It's a pain to read and navigate. Take a look at Songs of Conquest, which is a pixel art game, but it uses a nice, clean and readable UI.

[Dr.H]

Originally posted by UpInFlames:

I really liked the demo and will wishlist the game, but please, for the love of God and Ale, don't use pixel art for text and UI. It's a pain to read and navigate. Take a look at Songs of Conquest, which is a pixel art game, but it uses a nice, clean and readable UI.

ahaha well, we spent the day today testing non pixel fonts, so I guess your wish will become true pretty soon!

[UpInFlames]

Originally posted by Sgt.H:

Originally posted by UpInFlames:

I really liked the demo and will wishlist the game, but please, for the love of God and Ale, don't use pixel art for text and UI. It's a pain to read and navigate. Take a look at Songs of Conquest, which is a pixel art game, but it uses a nice, clean and readable UI.

ahaha well, we spent the day today testing non pixel fonts, so I guess you will will become true pretty soon! :dwarfbeer:

Fantastic, cheers!

[SMthegamer]

I completely disagree, and love the pixel art for text and UI.
Maybe an option would be a good compromise for accessibility.

[Rusteve]

Originally posted by SMthegamer:

I completely disagree, and love the pixel art for text and UI.
Maybe an option would be a good compromise for accessibility.

I've been gaming since the abbot was a lad and all there was was pixels so they have a certain charm for me. I can understand how people might have difficulties with regards to dyslexia or eyesight for example. An option to choose on first run would be good if that's possible.

[Dr.H]

No worries everybody, this is how it works (I am working on it today and tomorrow) :

Pixel font is still an option, but it needs to keep the actual scaling system (meaning, it only has optimal size at 1080p and 2160p, and tends to be small for many at resolutions in between like 1440, 1600 and 1800)

Non pixel font is an option, and it allows the UIs to stretch (vertically, but maintaining the proportions) also on resolutions like 1440, 1600 and 1800. For example, at 1800, the UI is 166% larger than the one at 1080p.

This seems to be the best compromise to satisfy everyone. Making Pixels Fonts UI scalable would be a crazy amount of work we can't manage (basically we would need a custom pixel font made specifically for every resolution like 1440, 1600 and 1800 but also for 768p, etc)

I hope to push the fix soon so that you can let us know if works better this way!

If Steam allows the link, here you can see the two version of the Font https://x.com/Ham_Rav/status/1848601215967350943

Cheers,
Dr.H

[UpInFlames]

Looks good to me, the non-pixel font is very nice and fits in with the theme. Thank you, I will be buying the game for sure now!

[red-sub]

Пройти обучающие миссии невозможно - не хватает денег уже с момента постройки бочки в погребе.

[Dr.H]

Originally posted by red-sub:

Пройти обучающие миссии невозможно - не хватает денег уже с момента постройки бочки в погребе.

нам определенно нужно это сбалансировать, но если вы варите и продаете пиво, вы легко найдете деньги, чтобы делать это! (еще быстрее с заказами на эль)

[red-sub]

Originally posted by Sgt.H:

Originally posted by red-sub:

Пройти обучающие миссии невозможно - не хватает денег уже с момента постройки бочки в погребе.

нам определенно нужно это сбалансировать, но если вы варите и продаете пиво, вы легко найдете деньги, чтобы делать это! (еще быстрее с заказами на эль)

На момент постройки подвала и бочки торговец еще недоступен и возможностей для доп. заработка нет.

[Dr.H]

Originally posted by red-sub:

Originally posted by Sgt.H:

нам определенно нужно это сбалансировать, но если вы варите и продаете пиво, вы легко найдете деньги, чтобы делать это! (еще быстрее с заказами на эль)

На момент постройки подвала и бочки торговец еще недоступен и возможностей для доп. заработка нет.

Вы уже просили кредит в финансовой панели?

[Dr.H]

Originally posted by red-sub:

Originally posted by Sgt.H:

нам определенно нужно это сбалансировать, но если вы варите и продаете пиво, вы легко найдете деньги, чтобы делать это! (еще быстрее с заказами на эль)

На момент постройки подвала и бочки торговец еще недоступен и возможностей для доп. заработка нет.

Кроме того, вам не нужен торговец для продажи пива. Когда пиво будет готово и откроется карта, нажмите «Продать» в левом нижнем углу панели, и оно будет отправлено на рынок и продано с течением времени (еженедельно).

[red-sub]

Спасибо, попробую.

[Dr.H]

The new UIs with non-pixel font option and scaling set to resolution size (only available with non pixel font) are in the build, if any of you gives it a try it'd be awesome to hear if it improved readability and usability, and if you like the look!

[TB]

I personally always prefer pixel fonts, even in Windows (cleartype disabled).

[Dr.H]

Originally posted by TB:

I personally always prefer pixel fonts, even in Windows (cleartype disabled).

Yep, that's why we left the pixel option. In a game engine a pixel font causes quite a few limitations as it's rendered differently from in an operative system (the main one is that each pixel font can only be used at the single exact scale it's been designed at, therefore preventing any UI scaling that is not a multiple of X2), but we wanted to leave the option available for those into it (and in case of 1080p and 2160p it doesn't need additional scaling)