Best weapon for each class / weapon type?

[zodak]

Asking cause I wanna farm for better weapons then I already have, I just don't know what to look for + wanna see others opinions

Also what's the best enchants for each class?

[The Hand]

Best enchants for each class would be Killer for warrior, Precise for Bandit, and Magical for Mystic. Those give you damage stats at least some might argue for Energetic for more Stamina or the Manafont for mana pool but Personally I like min maxing and manage my resources just fine so far might be better later in game though.

I am Unsure of best weapon type for each class general consensus seems to be Warrior is Heavy Melee, Bandit is Bow, and Mystic I am unsure of I prefer staff. I think best weapons you can get are from the Crescent Grove area but am unsure.

[Venc Ganence]

There isn't a best weapon type, each has their pros and cons.

Fighter wants STR, Bandit wants DEX, Mystic wants MND. That's Killer, Precise, and Magical enchantments, respectively.

You can enchant weapons to scale with other stats, so aside from skills that require a certain weapon type, there's no class designated weapons either.


Melee has quick windups which makes it good for parrying (parrying interrupts your actions which makes it hard to get a hit in edge-wise while parrying crowds).

Heavy Melee has wide swings and powerful jump/heavy attacks.

Polearms have long reach and good mobility, with multi-hitting attacks.

Bows are safe ranged options with good, well, range.

Katars are fast hitting with a weak jump attack but powerful heavy.

Wands can have range but the highest level ones are closer to shotguns, functionally. They allow free movement and their heavies are unique to each scepter.

Bells dish out large projectiles that can strike multiple targets multiple times. If you time a dash just right, it's also the most mobile weapon type. Heavy attacks are also unique to each bell, but are generally equal or weaker than normals while hitting a much wider area.


Fighters have a skill that requires a shield (Wand/Melee), and a skill that requires Heavy Melee/Polearm.

Bandits have skills that require a Bow.

[zodak]

Originally posted by Venc Ganence:

There isn't a best weapon type, each has their pros and cons.

Fighter wants STR, Bandit wants DEX, Mystic wants MND. That's Killer, Precise, and Magical enchantments, respectively.

You can enchant weapons to scale with other stats, so aside from skills that require a certain weapon type, there's no class designated weapons either.


Melee has quick windups which makes it good for parrying (parrying interrupts your actions which makes it hard to get a hit in edge-wise while parrying crowds).

Heavy Melee has wide swings and powerful jump/heavy attacks.

Polearms have long reach and good mobility, with multi-hitting attacks.

Bows are safe ranged options with good, well, range.

Katars are fast hitting with a weak jump attack but powerful heavy.

Wands can have range but the highest level ones are closer to shotguns, functionally. They allow free movement and their heavies are unique to each scepter.

Bells dish out large projectiles that can strike multiple targets multiple times. If you time a dash just right, it's also the most mobile weapon type. Heavy attacks are also unique to each bell, but are generally equal or weaker than normals while hitting a much wider area.


Fighters have a skill that requires a shield (Wand/Melee), and a skill that requires Heavy Melee/Polearm.

Bandits have skills that require a Bow.

Is colossal tone, quake pummeler, flamestaff and the coldgiest bow the highest damaging weapons (for their respective weapon types) atm?

[Smug Kot]

STR: all STR weapons are low dps.
DEX: Katars goes brrrrrrrrrr, bow sucks.
WIS: Bell goes brrrrrrrrr, wand sucks.

Bells basics and katar chaged attack are just way too good in comparation to other weapons.

[Venc Ganence]

Originally posted by zodak:

Is colossal tone, quake pummeler, flamestaff and the coldgiest bow the highest damaging weapons (for their respective weapon types) atm?

Melee: Coldgeist Blade
Heavy Melee: Quake Pummeler
Polearm: Ragespear
Katar: Golemfist Katars
Bow: Coldgeist Bow / Serrated Bow*
Wand: Flamepetal Staff
Bell: Coldgeist Bell / Colossus Tone**

*Serrated Bow deals more damage and punches through targets, but has half the range of other bows.
**These two bells deal the same damage in practice, making it a toss up to which one's quirks you prefer more.

[lukibido]

I don't think this is what you asked but if you are just using m1 the spear (ragespear) is the strongest weapon, but if you are using bandit the charge attack for katars (because of crit) is very strong and mystic skills are strong too. I didn't play a lot with fighter so i am not sure there.

[ManiacOverlord.ttv]

There isn't really a "best" for each class, because each weapon is effectively its own entire style. That said, Bandit really likes Bow and Katars for the high hitcounts so that you can gain consistent bonus damage from crit chances. (plus Bandit has some Bow-only skills iirc)

Bells are nice for playing Keep-Away as a Mystic I suppose, since iirc they have some knockback and lingering hitboxes.

And depending on your specific flavor of Fighter you'd want sword'n'board for the shield, for damage reduction and some shield-oriented skills.

Beyond that it's really up to preference. Nothing is stopping you from being a reasonably effective sword'n'board Mystic battlemage or a heavy-weapon Bandit or even a bell-swinging Warrior. You can make most things work. Bows and shields are iirc the only things that really have any class-based dependencies for their effectiveness and they're still usable even then.

[yobnomekop]

Originally posted by Venc Ganence:

Melee: Coldgeist Blade
Heavy Melee: Quake Pummeler
Polearm: Ragespear
Katar: Golemfist Katars
Bow: Coldgeist Bow / Serrated Bow*
Wand: Flamepetal Staff
Bell: Coldgeist Bell / Colossus Tone**

*Serrated Bow deals more damage and punches through targets, but has half the range of other bows.
**These two bells deal the same damage in practice, making it a toss up to which one's quirks you prefer more.

My serrated bow says it deals less damage than my coldgeist bow when I mouse over them. Is the game just lying to me then? What makes the serrated deal more damage?

Also, how exactly do elements on weapons work?

[Venc Ganence]

Originally posted by yobnomekop:

My serrated bow says it deals less damage than my coldgeist bow when I mouse over them. Is the game just lying to me then? What makes the serrated deal more damage?

Also, how exactly do elements on weapons work?

Kinda, yeah. The tooltips are generally accurate, but try each weapon on the test dummies. You'll see not all is at it seems.

Under the hood, weapon attacks deal some percentage of their listed damage per tick. This is just a result of that modifier being hidden and balancing decisions compounding into a non-linear progression curve.


Elemental resistances aren't implemented yet, so what you're getting is the associated status effect. If a weapon has flavor text, it should have a secondary effect. Regardless of that, water weapons should inflict cold (25% slow) and fire weapons should inflict burning (DoT).

[yobnomekop]

That's very interesting. Ya, in practice, even though the coldgeist has a higher number listed on the weapon itself, the serrated is doing more damage to the target. That is super weird.

Ty for the suggestion.

[Intra]

Class play order suggestion:
Mystic - access to ranged, self heals, doesn't require potions or learning as much about enemy patterns: starting weapon usually go wood hammer, then start using bells and wands as you get them. Wizwand and above kinda suck, bells are typically better, but you can get Rude Blade > Vile Blade and use a gem to convert it to Mind Scaling if you're moderately fortunate. You can also just use Fluxbolt. Not great for AOE, but it's good dps after it gets to level 5-ish.

Final Weapons:
1. Quake Pummeler - Mind Scaling
2. Golemfist Katar - Mind Scaling
3, Serrated Bow / Coldgeist Bow - Mind Scaling
4. Colossal Tone
5. Flamepetal Wand (this is mostly for PVP)

Bandit - access to bows, less healing than Fighter with Divine, but playing Bow is pretty easy, and as a second character you can start with a Spread Shot scroll and money to burn on potions (like mana pots you will desperately need). Without the financial support, could be considered harder than Fighter, but with money is probably easier.

Final Weapons:
1-4 are the same, except scaled to DEX

Fighter - no ranged, higher defense, larger parry windows, and later access to Divine with Rage for self healing. If this was your first character and you went melee only, rushed dungeons, didn't use potions, and didn't use rock throw, you might see the game as quite hard. It's the top option for speedrunning though, because early game leveling has some REALLY good strength weapons. And Rock Throw.

Final Weapons:
1-4 are the same, except scaled to STR