I can't scale. Game impossible? (Mystic)

[King of Sorrow]

Seems like the game's broken for me or something. Everyone else around seems to grow stronger when they level up, but me? Nope!

Have to rely on carrying teammates just to get content done, and I hate being a leech. Playing solo is suicide however, since I can't just seem to do damage. 36 Mind, 16 Vitality, and I'm just...not dealing damage. Bell hits for 2 to 7 per tick before hitting for 15 average on the end. The scepter hits for 20 a hit, and magic is too slow to work when 50 enemies are rushing me at once.

I'm doing it wrong, so what's the way to make mystic good? OR is mystic just trash? Level 15 at the moment, so it's not -too- big a deal if I can't course-correct this character. If it's drop based, I'm out - luck's not a strong point.

[Lesserred]

Are you using the starter bell and scepter still? you SHOULD be doing more damage than 2-7 with those stats

[TarsalChair7686]

First of all. ARE YOU HITTING APPLY WHEN ALLOCATING STATS this did actually catch me on my first level up so no shame.

its not really drop based at level 15, I just finished all the content in the game as a mystic (only about 10 hours and im at lv 21). You can get a quest for a decent rod from the ratshopkeeper, and just buying straight up from her isnt a bad idea either. this carried me through up to level 18. you honestly just wanna pay attention to what enchants you have on and if youre actually increasing magic attack with your gear

[King of Sorrow]

Originally posted by Lesserred:

Are you using the starter bell and scepter still? you SHOULD be doing more damage than 2-7 with those stats

Bell is a horrible weapon nuts to soup, it seems. I've got a crypt bell (normal rarity) and it just doesn't hit for ♥♥♥♥. I'm using a unique scepter that dropped from the Slime Diva that outclasses every other scepter I've got at the moment, and it is the strongest weapon I have (17-20 damage on hit on average). Unfortunately, it's just NOT efficient enough to murder things, As such, I'm dying in battles of attrition.

Originally posted by TarsalChair7686:

First of all. ARE YOU HITTING APPLY WHEN ALLOCATING STATS this did actually catch me on my first level up so no shame.

its not really drop based at level 15, I just finished all the content in the game as a mystic (only about 10 hours and im at lv 21). You can get a quest for a decent rod from the ratshopkeeper, and just buying straight up from her isnt a bad idea either. this carried me through up to level 18. you honestly just wanna pay attention to what enchants you have on and if youre actually increasing magic attack with your gear

Yes. I'm allocating stats, hence the mentions of where my stats are in the initial post. Doesn't seem to be doing ♥♥♥♥ however. The rod...the wizwand or whatever? Did that quest already. Can't make enchants since I can't kill anything but the most basic of foes. Combine that with the costs of enchants, and I'm in a bit of a spot. That, and my damage isn't going up despite heavy mind investment.

[Wolfy]

I mean I cleared the entire game solo as a Mystic so you're doing something wrong.

Mystic is far from trash especially once you get the Bell from the 15-20 dungeon boss

That thing makes a joke out of the current content

The flame staff from the 15-20 dungeon should help you out alot with dps cause of the burn procs.

[MakiiNeko]

Im doing mystic rn and its a powerhouse from beginning to the end. What place in progression are you at currently?

[moldy cheese]

The end game has been hell and back for me as well, also Level 15 as well.

[King of Sorrow]

Originally posted by Wolfy:

I mean I cleared the entire game solo as a Mystic so you're doing something wrong.

Mystic is far from trash especially once you get the Bell from the 15-20 dungeon boss

That thing makes a joke out of the current content

The flame staff from the 15-20 dungeon should help you out alot with dps cause of the burn procs.

Thanks for the tips. Content I can't exactly beat due to something that's up with my character. It's like the mind scaling isn't doing anything at all

[King of Sorrow]

Originally posted by MakiiNeko:

Im doing mystic rn and its a powerhouse from beginning to the end. What place in progression are you at currently?

Level 15 just reached thanks to burning money on XP books since I can't kill. "Tethering Grove" is the current quest. Got tired of being carried by people, and now I can't do it on my own. Oh well!

[Lesserred]

Originally posted by King of Sorrow:

Originally posted by Lesserred:

Are you using the starter bell and scepter still? you SHOULD be doing more damage than 2-7 with those stats

Bell is a horrible weapon nuts to soup, it seems. I've got a crypt bell (normal rarity) and it just doesn't hit for ♥♥♥♥. I'm using a unique scepter that dropped from the Slime Diva that outclasses every other scepter I've got at the moment, and it is the strongest weapon I have (17-20 damage on hit on average). Unfortunately, it's just NOT efficient enough to murder things, As such, I'm dying in battles of attrition.

Originally posted by TarsalChair7686:

First of all. ARE YOU HITTING APPLY WHEN ALLOCATING STATS this did actually catch me on my first level up so no shame.

its not really drop based at level 15, I just finished all the content in the game as a mystic (only about 10 hours and im at lv 21). You can get a quest for a decent rod from the ratshopkeeper, and just buying straight up from her isnt a bad idea either. this carried me through up to level 18. you honestly just wanna pay attention to what enchants you have on and if youre actually increasing magic attack with your gear

Yes. I'm allocating stats, hence the mentions of where my stats are in the initial post. Doesn't seem to be doing ♥♥♥♥ however. The rod...the wizwand or whatever? Did that quest already. Can't make enchants since I can't kill anything but the most basic of foes. Combine that with the costs of enchants, and I'm in a bit of a spot. That, and my damage isn't going up despite heavy mind investment.

Crypt bell is from the tutorial difficulty dungeon, no wonder you're doing garbo damage. The Slime diva wand is also not that great. You should farm for at LEAST the medium difficulty dungeons version of the bell and wand, then go in to the hard difficulty to get those versions or hell just buy mithril from the shop since you're level 15.

edit: Actually, yeah just buy the mithril then go do hard catacombs until you get the bell from the boss. because that's the next tier up from mithril. Then get either of the scepters that drop from the mushrooms in the grove. BAM you're no longer doing booty damage.

[King Caesar]

Originally posted by King of Sorrow:

Originally posted by Lesserred:

Are you using the starter bell and scepter still? you SHOULD be doing more damage than 2-7 with those stats

Bell is a horrible weapon nuts to soup, it seems. I've got a crypt bell (normal rarity) and it just doesn't hit for ♥♥♥♥. I'm using a unique scepter that dropped from the Slime Diva that outclasses every other scepter I've got at the moment, and it is the strongest weapon I have (17-20 damage on hit on average). Unfortunately, it's just NOT efficient enough to murder things, As such, I'm dying in battles of attrition.

Originally posted by TarsalChair7686:

First of all. ARE YOU HITTING APPLY WHEN ALLOCATING STATS this did actually catch me on my first level up so no shame.

its not really drop based at level 15, I just finished all the content in the game as a mystic (only about 10 hours and im at lv 21). You can get a quest for a decent rod from the ratshopkeeper, and just buying straight up from her isnt a bad idea either. this carried me through up to level 18. you honestly just wanna pay attention to what enchants you have on and if youre actually increasing magic attack with your gear

Yes. I'm allocating stats, hence the mentions of where my stats are in the initial post. Doesn't seem to be doing ♥♥♥♥ however. The rod...the wizwand or whatever? Did that quest already. Can't make enchants since I can't kill anything but the most basic of foes. Combine that with the costs of enchants, and I'm in a bit of a spot. That, and my damage isn't going up despite heavy mind investment.

The bell actually melts. It hit multiple times and if it's a good one will carry you.

[King of Sorrow]

Originally posted by Wolfy:

Originally posted by King of Sorrow:

Level 15 just reached thanks to burning money on XP books since I can't kill. "Tethering Grove" is the current quest. Got tired of being carried by people, and now I can't do it on my own. Oh well!

You should probably just run the 12-18 dungeon till you hit 18 and try to farm up the gear from in there then.

15 aint gonna cut up for the 15-20 dungeon the boss can clap your cheeks with a random 100+ damage crit if he manages to hit you and the enemies are rough for a 15.

Dungeon should honestly be an 18-20 dungeon 15 is way too early.

As it stands, I die in one hit even with points in vitality. Walking into a room and eating 60-120 damage is kind of a no sell in terms of doing the dungeon. Guess I'm cooked! Played the game too long to refund it too. Bah.

[Lesserred]

Originally posted by King Caesar:

The bell actually melts. It hit multiple times and if it's a good one will carry you.

That's the problem, OP just admitted he's using the bell from the easy difficulty dungeon still.

[[ARA] Panzergott]

Made a mystic myself and the class feels extremely weak compared to the other 2. Even with the passive regen increase you can barely cast spells and your weapons just dont do much damage. Its easy cuz ranged but slow and boring.

[Wonder]

Aside from what's already been said I would really try and figure out a good spell rotation and play around a bit solo to get a feel for how you can create space/time for yourself and begin casting.

I've only played Mystic in the itch demo so I'm not 100% sure what there is to work with now but I used to do something like this: Dodge around until the enemies are grouped together (you can also slow down a bit then speed up and try to bait out some attack animations to create space) throw a Cross into them -> Immediately start casting Spire as they rush back toward me -> Fluxspear when they finally reach me -> Nova and bounce them away again and then finish off what's left with basic attacks or rinse & repeat the rotation. For heavy duty single targets I would just spam Fluxbolt.

I also stacked a ton of manafont gear so I wouldn't run out of gas after 1 rotation, also having a good amount of mana replenishing items helps for extended fights like bosses.

I believe Spire got changed and that Cryo spell is new so I'm not really sure what can be done now or if my example rotation makes any sense in the current version, but it's just an example and also to say you shouldn't count out the spell scroll drops after getting a class, they can really tie things together.

[King of Sorrow]

Originally posted by Lesserred:

Originally posted by King of Sorrow:

Bell is a horrible weapon nuts to soup, it seems. I've got a crypt bell (normal rarity) and it just doesn't hit for ♥♥♥♥. I'm using a unique scepter that dropped from the Slime Diva that outclasses every other scepter I've got at the moment, and it is the strongest weapon I have (17-20 damage on hit on average). Unfortunately, it's just NOT efficient enough to murder things, As such, I'm dying in battles of attrition.





Yes. I'm allocating stats, hence the mentions of where my stats are in the initial post. Doesn't seem to be doing ♥♥♥♥ however. The rod...the wizwand or whatever? Did that quest already. Can't make enchants since I can't kill anything but the most basic of foes. Combine that with the costs of enchants, and I'm in a bit of a spot. That, and my damage isn't going up despite heavy mind investment.

Crypt bell is from the tutorial difficulty dungeon, no wonder you're doing garbo damage. The Slime diva wand is also not that great. You should farm for at LEAST the medium difficulty dungeons version of the bell and wand, then go in to the hard difficulty to get those versions or hell just buy mithril from the shop since you're level 15.

edit: Actually, yeah just buy the mithril then go do hard catacombs until you get the bell from the boss. because that's the next tier up from mithril. Then get either of the scepters that drop from the mushrooms in the grove. BAM you're no longer doing booty damage.

https://jumpshare.com/s/GbzFI6i0q038daudcWK4 Even the mythril bell is not up to snuff, it seems. This is after monetary burning on some magical power enchantments too. I don't seem to have the secret to crack that code in damage. Nothing is 'melting' like people swear it does.