Why are there bot matches in QP again?

[Good Person]

I just have to ask. I stomp 3 games in a row in QP while trying to try out Emma , MVP every time, and I got thrown into a bot match for what?

I thought bot matches didn't happen if you win, plus my account level is like 30-40, and people say bot matches stop at higher account levels.

No it's not the end of the world but its such a waste of my time, then I get a penalty for leaving a bot match that inevitably fills my spot with a bot anyway. What's the point?

[JG2thend]

Replay code?

[Good Person]

Originally posted by JG2thend:

Replay code?

I left, so no replay code.

[Sheiriff Woody]

Originally posted by Good Person:

I just have to ask. I stomp 3 games in a row in QP while trying to try out Emma , MVP every time, and I got thrown into a bot match for what?

I thought bot matches didn't happen if you win, plus my account level is like 30-40, and people say bot matches stop at higher account levels.

No it's not the end of the world but its such a waste of my time, then I get a penalty for leaving a bot match that inevitably fills my spot with a bot anyway. What's the point?

According to the EOMM Crusaders, Bot matches ONLY happen if you lose 2 in a Row. So if you played 3 matches won all 3 and they were Bots, then it disproves their argument. BOTS in QP has many uses, Population Issues, Cant find enough within a certain time limit since QP is QUICK, so it will throw in BOTs so people can play a Quick match. QP is not meant for Warm ups, or Improvement. Its like Fast Food, get in and get out.

BOTS can also be use as a way to ease players into matches, like PUBG, Overwatch and Fortnite.

I dont get why people get so Disappointed why they encounter a BOT in QP, Rank is one thing, its just QP. Play Rank if you think the BOTS are that big of a deal breaker.

[Good Person]

Originally posted by Sheiriff Woody:

BOTS in QP has many uses, Population Issues, Cant find enough within a certain time limit since QP is QUICK, so it will throw in BOTs so people can play a Quick match.

Population and finding player issues on the first weekend of a new season in a relatively popular cross-platform game? Highly unlikely. I could understand if it was also attempting to group players by something like an MMR, but if bots are present on both sides, I don't think that's a concern.

Originally posted by Sheiriff Woody:

QP is not meant for Warm ups, or Improvement. Its like Fast Food, get in and get out.

I dont get why people get so Disappointed why they encounter a BOT in QP, Rank is one thing, its just QP. Play Rank if you think the BOTS are that big of a deal breaker.

And so I ask, where do I go to "warm up" or just try a new hero in 0 stakes environment? Custom matches?

It's not a deal breaker but is it absurd to ask or at least expect the ability to just play casually against other human beings without necessarily going into rank to do so? Also, I play ranked with a friend generally, and he's not available this weekend. If I go play without him, I'm going to inevitably climb (implying I want to play a ranked match anyway). So what am I to do once the rank gap gets too large? Make a alt account just because I don't have a way to avoid bots in quick play?

Even then WHY is there Quick Play and Co-op vs AI if BOTH have bots in them??? Only difference is one doesn't clearly state it may load you into a lobby with and against bots, and the other does.

It'd be one thing if the bots were actually good but they're terrible and get stomped in their spawn 80% of the time. I'd just walk away from my keyboard where my team should be able to comfortably win 4v5 if not for the fact that I'd get a penalty for afking.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Good Person:

Originally posted by JG2thend:

Replay code?

I left, so no replay code.

So you have no idea one way or the other.

[Mellanie94]

my dude its a party of 6 you are not the only one. maybe an other player in your party got a loseing streak. it can happen.

[Good Person]

Originally posted by Mellanie94:

my dude its a party of 6 you are not the only one. maybe an other player in your party got a loseing streak. it can happen.

But they weren't in my party, and the general assumptions of the way the EOMM works is that its individual, people on a winning streak don't get dragged into these bot matches unless they have a relatively low account level. Based on the fact that I've never seen streamers in these matches during any of their stream-snipe free cosmetic event end up in a bot match, despite others getting into bot matches themselves.

And steam discussion swears at higher level, you just don't get bot matches.

Originally posted by Steve:

Originally posted by Good Person:

I left, so no replay code.

So you have no idea one way or the other.

When I see:
-A death recap of a Punisher having unnatural snappy aim.

-Enemies having collectively short attention span (I.e , Spiderman shoots them from a handful of meters away, alleged bots immediately turn to shoot, then ignore and look at whomever is closest, as a collective)

-Enemies clumped up together in a ball, walking backwards out of spawn or from a general location as if their cursor is fixed on a particular position.

-Systematically run out of spawn during overtime before point is capped in a way I can only describe as "the way bots do"

- Have the [JoeSmith] naming convention

I think I can safely conclude that I am in-fact inside of a bot match.

[VoiD]

Gotta go fast

[Ravnin]

To deceptively make you feel better... if you can't tell you're playing against bots.
Here's one replay still in date, I have two others but they are from the previous patch so no longer work.
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[Ferrsai]

Originally posted by Good Person:

I just have to ask. I stomp 3 games in a row in QP while trying to try out Emma , MVP every time, and I got thrown into a bot match for what?

I thought bot matches didn't happen if you win, plus my account level is like 30-40, and people say bot matches stop at higher account levels.

No it's not the end of the world but its such a waste of my time, then I get a penalty for leaving a bot match that inevitably fills my spot with a bot anyway. What's the point?

Played a match that I could have sworn up and down was a bot match until an enemy said I sucked in match chat, I was mopping the floor with them just like so many bot matches before. Now I question if bot matches are even a real thing. The bot matches in that specific mode are actually better than those bot supposed QP bot matches.

So what is really going on here? Are they just grouping completely terrible players on the same team? They should spread those players to no more than one or two per team. Or if they that poorly, it can't be hard to single out those accounts and secretly put them in a separate queue against bots and each other. They could to the same thing with habitual leavers as well. I am one, but I wouldn't be if they would take some steps to create actual engaging matches instead of the weird win/loss balance, as if the quality of the match itself has no bearing on engagement. Everything between the start of the match and the end is where ALL of the engagement is, the win or loss doesn't even matter if the match is balanced appropriately.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Good Person:

Originally posted by Steve:

So you have no idea one way or the other.

When I see:
-A death recap of a Punisher having unnatural snappy aim.

-Enemies having collectively short attention span (I.e , Spiderman shoots them from a handful of meters away, alleged bots immediately turn to shoot, then ignore and look at whomever is closest, as a collective)

-Enemies clumped up together in a ball, walking backwards out of spawn or from a general location as if their cursor is fixed on a particular position.

-Systematically run out of spawn during overtime before point is capped in a way I can only describe as "the way bots do"

- Have the [JoeSmith] naming convention

I think I can safely conclude that I am in-fact inside of a bot match.

Seems like you already have your mind made up, despite being wrong on at least three of these observations. I'll leave you to your windmills, gl.

[Activison]

Originally posted by Good Person:

Originally posted by Sheiriff Woody:

BOTS in QP has many uses, Population Issues, Cant find enough within a certain time limit since QP is QUICK, so it will throw in BOTs so people can play a Quick match.

Population and finding player issues on the first weekend of a new season in a relatively popular cross-platform game? Highly unlikely. I could understand if it was also attempting to group players by something like an MMR, but if bots are present on both sides, I don't think that's a concern.

Originally posted by Sheiriff Woody:

QP is not meant for Warm ups, or Improvement. Its like Fast Food, get in and get out.

I dont get why people get so Disappointed why they encounter a BOT in QP, Rank is one thing, its just QP. Play Rank if you think the BOTS are that big of a deal breaker.

And so I ask, where do I go to "warm up" or just try a new hero in 0 stakes environment? Custom matches?

It's not a deal breaker but is it absurd to ask or at least expect the ability to just play casually against other human beings without necessarily going into rank to do so? Also, I play ranked with a friend generally, and he's not available this weekend. If I go play without him, I'm going to inevitably climb (implying I want to play a ranked match anyway). So what am I to do once the rank gap gets too large? Make a alt account just because I don't have a way to avoid bots in quick play?

Even then WHY is there Quick Play and Co-op vs AI if BOTH have bots in them??? Only difference is one doesn't clearly state it may load you into a lobby with and against bots, and the other does.

It'd be one thing if the bots were actually good but they're terrible and get stomped in their spawn 80% of the time. I'd just walk away from my keyboard where my team should be able to comfortably win 4v5 if not for the fact that I'd get a penalty for afking.

dont listen to him, he will defend bots in MR and gaslight like bots in PVP gamemode is a good thing