Did you like Emma Frost?

[ZeroJImmy]

What is your opinion?

[Steve]

She's alright, but she doesn't do anything better than anyone else with similar skills in the Vanguard category. She's more of a jack of all trades, master of none. She'll be great for lower elo but probably fall off at higher levels.

[Lord Doober De La Goober MXI]

terms of what?
as she portrayed in game? yes I think they did a good job with her, to the point that I'm excited to see what they'll do with cyclops

game-play wise? hell if I know, girl gets insta-locked as soon as I get to the select screen

[Deadman'shand]

Her E ability seems to do a surprising amount of damage for something on such low of a cool down but the rest of her kit seems alright. Nothing exciting. Still going to stick to Cap and Thor over her.

[ZeroJImmy]

sad

Originally posted by Lord Doober De La Goober MXI:

terms of what?
as she portrayed in game? yes I think they did a good job with her, to the point that I'm excited to see what they'll do with cyclops

game-play wise? hell if I know, girl gets insta-locked as soon as I get to the select screen

[King of Evil]

I still sorta prefer playing as Dr. Strange for a few reasons. His basic attacks & Melee are still the best of all the tanks, his shield is still larger & has more health and he can get to high spots when needed with his float.

The plus side with Emma, tho, is her shield can be up and you can do other stuff. While with other Vanguards you can only really hold the shield up & that's it. So she's got that going for her at least.

I also like how she can summon a sentient to deal extra damage but it's such a small projectile it's like almost impossible to hit smaller targets with it but when you do if they don't run away to disable it they basically get nuked.

Her best parts about her kit is she has a lot of crowd control. She can kick people off maps while in Diamond form, stun someone with a grab, and AOE stun entire teams with her ultimate within 40 meters, which is huge.

Overall, I'd say she's at least an A Tier, but Magneto & Strange are still better overall by comparison.

Her big weakness is when she's transforming to Diamond form, tho. She's stuck in an animation for about a second & can't do anything. She's basically a sitting duck until the animation is over, so it's better to transform behind cover or behind your shield so they can't take advantage of it. I dunno if there's a way to cancel it or not, yet.

[Null Winter]

She's a tempo tank; rushdown with Diamond Form when she sees an opportunity and squat at the choke to build her meters the rest of the time. Her barrier is rather sturdy and can be placed freely, but the awkward shape means it can't reliably protect the team.

Her ult is hilariously stupid. Massive, constant AOE with good DPS that negates counter-ults from even a single frame of exposure and rapidly builds up to forced movement that lasts the rest of the duration. It also seems to bypass standard barriers, but not total immunity states like Magneto bubbles and intangible states. She also seems CC resistant during it, like most characters with full commitment channeled ults; the dev team seems REALLY scared of people being knocked out of ults, which is wholly counter-intuitive to this genre's game design.

I think she just needs some numbers tweaks, more vulnerability to counter-play in her ult, and a barrier shape change.

[Terotrous]

She feels extremely underwhelming to me, feels like a character I'm never scared of. One of the biggest problems is that she cannot main / solo tank, she's yet another off-tank and there's a ton of competition in that role, particularly from the newly gigabuffed Hulk. Her grab is hard to hit and not a major threat, and neither are any of her other abilities other than her ult.

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Terotrous:

She feels extremely underwhelming to me, feels like a character I'm never scared of. One of the biggest problems is that she cannot main / solo tank, she's yet another off-tank and there's a ton of competition in that role, particularly from the newly gigabuffed Hulk. Her grab is hard to hit and not a major threat, and neither are any of her other abilities other than her ult.

The main draw of her grab is that it's effectively an extended stun in a game that lacks reliable stuns; if she grabs a tank, then a competent team will take that moment to shoot past and pop a healer or DPS, and grabbing any kind of squishy means they're dead from focus fire or the kick follow-up splatting them against a wall or pushing them into your waiting team.

[Basarab Laiota]

she's pretty but i would never cheat on Luna

[King of Evil]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

Originally posted by Terotrous:

She feels extremely underwhelming to me, feels like a character I'm never scared of. One of the biggest problems is that she cannot main / solo tank, she's yet another off-tank and there's a ton of competition in that role, particularly from the newly gigabuffed Hulk. Her grab is hard to hit and not a major threat, and neither are any of her other abilities other than her ult.

The main draw of her grab is that it's effectively an extended stun in a game that lacks reliable stuns; if she grabs a tank, then a competent team will take that moment to shoot past and pop a healer or DPS, and grabbing any kind of squishy means they're dead from focus fire or the kick follow-up splatting them against a wall or pushing them into your waiting team.

Yea, i thought it was hilarious when I body slammed The Hulk during the grab. If everyone attacks the stunned during the grab, they are as good as dead.

It's better to punch twice before kicking, tho. They can't move for a split second after the grab is over & you can get two extra jabs on them before they can move again, & that's when you should use the kick. I've taken out Full HP Magneto's & others by doing this already.

[AXIOS FINALE]

Command grabs are always cool W

[Brandon]

amazing

[j.yellow28]

Frost has potential. Played her a bit. noticed aginst other tanks that like to get in close she can be suprisingly good counter. She can take people like Hult and strange, pick them up, throw them behind her and then kick them into ur team mates where they can be shreaded and forced out of Pos.
Would need to play more but i like her. Not super Op it seems tho we will see how meta shifts

[Terotrous]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

The main draw of her grab is that it's effectively an extended stun in a game that lacks reliable stuns; if she grabs a tank, then a competent team will take that moment to shoot past and pop a healer or DPS, and grabbing any kind of squishy means they're dead from focus fire or the kick follow-up splatting them against a wall or pushing them into your waiting team.

The thing is, it depends very heavily on her positioning. If she's on the frontline and grabs someone, they'll just get healed during the grab and it'll accomplish nothing. If someone like Thor is diving the backline and she hits the grab on him, sure, he's probably dead, but she can't really just sit back and wait for these opportunities and she's kind of a tickle monster the rest of the time.

I think one of the biggest issues is that she's an off-tank who has no mobility. Every other off-tank has a movement skill, but she doesn't. It leaves her with basically no way to get to the positions where she's needed, so even though in theory she can grab a Spiderman out of his ult it'll probably never happen because she'll never be in range to do it.

IMO she's easily the worst Vanguard but we'll see how it shakes out.

[Ad-Hoc]

She's got a pretty good kit with potential for high damage, but only functions at short range without having any movement options. Makes her a solid team tank in that she can stick with them. Her Barrier is her best space making tool, but Groot's are a lot better at it. I think you want to be moving it constantly. Her Diamond Form was when i felt i was making the most impact, do wish it lasted longer. Only really get one choke and two kicks out of it.