Human Torch is god awful

[Westbrook]

I mean he's even worse than Mr Fantastic ever was because at least Mr Fantastic fit the niche of a pseudo tank but in the DPS role... this mf does nothing. He's a pure DPS hero with just bad damage.

He has a shotgun spread for a primary fire and a dive bomb move, but doesn't have the survivability to actually play in the range for a shotgun / dive bomb user. His ult is mostly ignorable. His pyro prison is borderline impossible to actually form because the walls will just stop from the smallest piece of nothingness, especially from map debris that can break off and just land wherever. Sometimes his right click won't even leave a fire pool for some random reason.

Genuinely the walls should have a shorter range but go through walls to still form the prison or just ignore smaller map terrain because it full on doesn't work 75% of the time. Dude needs massive fixes.

[luke921]

Watch some of the top players who play torch. He’s actually insanely busted. He just has a high skill ceiling. Lots of interesting tech. I recommend watching some stuff. Timthetatman did a video where he spectated the number 1 torch he’s crazy

[Westbrook]

Originally posted by luke921:

Watch some of the top players who play torch. He’s actually insanely busted. He just has a high skill ceiling. Lots of interesting tech. I recommend watching some stuff. Timthetatman did a video where he spectated the number 1 torch he’s crazy

It has nothing to do with being good or not, his abilities literally don't work half the time. I can be as good as I want, if my abilities don't physically function it doesn't matter. Fire pools randomly not being formed, walls not connecting due to the most minute piece of geometry, some walls just not even going towards a fire pool in general so it makes a pyro prison that's useless and was unintended.

The hero doesn't function.

[luke921]

Originally posted by Westbrook:

Originally posted by luke921:

Watch some of the top players who play torch. He’s actually insanely busted. He just has a high skill ceiling. Lots of interesting tech. I recommend watching some stuff. Timthetatman did a video where he spectated the number 1 torch he’s crazy

It has nothing to do with being good or not, his abilities literally don't work half the time. I can be as good as I want, if my abilities don't physically function it doesn't matter. Fire pools randomly not being formed, walls not connecting due to the most minute piece of geometry, some walls just not even going towards a fire pool in general so it makes a pyro prison that's useless and was unintended.

The hero doesn't function.

I don’t know man maybe it’s an issue with your game client or something. I just haven’t heard of that happening with other people. If that’s what’s actually happening then it sounds like a glitch or maybe you aren’t using the abilities correctly. I honestly don’t know. I don’t think it’s the game designers fault tho. I think they created a really strong hero when used correctly

[Deadman'shand]

People always say Johnny has bad damage and yet when I play tank my HP goes from full to "what the ♥♥♥♥ is doing that much damage?" in seconds a majority of the time.

[MincecraftSteve]

Originally posted by luke921:

Watch some of the top players who play torch. He’s actually insanely busted. He just has a high skill ceiling. Lots of interesting tech. I recommend watching some stuff. Timthetatman did a video where he spectated the number 1 torch he’s crazy

High skill floor is the term. You have to be pretty good to even start playing him effectively. The only reason to master him would be that most people arent going to know how to deal with it or you just really like him... Pure numbers you'd be better with another character.

[j.yellow28]

Played torch for a little bit. Abilitys work fine for me. he is a croud controle mixed with ability to target one squishy and delete them imo. Something might just be wrong with how ur using him, Can u send replay of a game where u played him?