Black Widow seems so basic compared to other heroes

[carlotheemo]

-Feels like Widow is left out on the game in terms of fun mechanics. This isn't about viability but more on how it feels to play the character.

Even Hela which i feel is the second most basic, has stuns, explosions and flying. Hela is still fun mechanics wise, unlike widow

All widow feels like is a glorified sniper runner with a kick. Batons dont even do much for an assassin. She doesn't feel different from other games with snipers.


-Idk if you guys accept suggestions, but I was thinking splitting the grapple from the kick


-The Grapple ability will be something like moon knight. balance it as you wish if people can use it to escape well, but the point is more to get at more unusual angles.

This will make it more fun to move around as widow, a more fun to sniper since she has a lot more angles to play around with


-The kick ability will instead either

1. mark people hit, the grapple will then be the same with what it currently is. And if you allow it, refresh cooldown for each mark (just an option).

2. just straight up change the grapple to what it currently is. after use it goes on cooldown.

First suggestion would at least make her more compelling in terms of melee so the batons will have a lot more uses. also it fun to bounce around enemy to enemy.


-If its unbalance, then we just don't do it. but i do wish Black widow to be more then a woman running around and sniping, when every other hero has a more fun mechanic even they themselves aren't used on the very very top level

[Good Person]

I agree and honestly, I wish they made her a flanker or assassin that then pulls out the redroom rifle as a ult.

As a sniper shes very uninteresting and uninspired beyond aesthetics.

[nice]

it was my first char i played and i like her

[Koba]

lol widows melee mode is probably the most useless thing in the game. Why even add it to the game when its that terrible.

She needs either a 1 shot with slower reload, or a 2 shot with quicker reload, in ranged. OR a much quicker reload and 3 shots to the body kills.

[Silencedmage]

Yeah it feels like the only reason she is a sniper is the devs felt like you have to have a sniper in any shooter, and that just didn't excite anyone given that's not what Black Widow is known for.

[Lunar Fang]

I like the idea of her having some kind of grapple tool, but my idea is since you know she's a master at hand to hand combat. I'm thinking you can use the rifle to mark enemies and grapple onto them and you can switch into melee mode. So tone down the rifle's damage a little bit and when you hit someone you get let's say a little damage boost against them when they're marked and you can shoot them with your grappling ability to get in close. This way she's a good mix of ranged and melee, but you get a benefit for sniping still by marking enemies, but the damage increase only works for her melee attacks so you have to mix it up.

[carlotheemo]

tbh i think the sniper is perfect as it is. anything that changes her other skills would be the only improvement we should be looking for

[LDvergil]

I think she should get a new active skill "BBL" granting her 50% shield but when she gets flanked a debuff passive activates, "Bombastic side eye" actives and the "BBL" deflates causing her to gradually lose armour fast.

[Desna]

She needs defensive, something a stun grenade, or a cloaking device to get away. Even with that, the sniping dmg isn't good enough to warrant the slow attack speed and reload. Most of the good widow are probably using aimbots

[AlienJay]

I don’t see her much tbh

[kadeshack]

I wish she played like the Marvel Avengers character.

[Wolviller111]

I really enjoy playing her. Her rifle is just super satisfying, i can't exactly say why. I just wish the rest of her kit was... well, useful. I've learned to like her ult, but the rest is garbage.

Even if her kit stays the same, atleast some tweaks would be good. More charge on the sprint, less CD on the kick and especially a bigger hitbox on the kick, because it is absolutely pathetic.

[WeTDreamZz]

sniper and smg plus electric grenades or something ...... and her ult ....... wtf lol

[kw0lf.tw]

You will see some depth when you get into melee with her ... kick, pull, kick, shot, shot for the kill

[Roland]

Originally posted by carlotheemo:

-Idk if you guys accept suggestions, but I was thinking splitting the grapple from the kick

The devs are never going to see this thread since they have no staff monitoring this board.

If you genuinely want to pitch a suggestion, use the Customer Support option in the menu in game, or the Discord.

[amerika*]

Yeah, her kit feels to me like, "oh crap, we were supposed to add Black Widow? OK, what's the lowest effort options we can put in".

I do enjoy that she can run and jump really high. But the kick/grapple thing is weird and cumbersome and not used often and on a really long cool down. And her melee is hilariously bad and if you take the time to swap to it, rather than no scope, you will die in most situations where you'd want to switch to it.