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Clumsybeast Dec 16, 2024 @ 11:51am
What character do you think needs nerfs, or buffs so far?
In my opinion think Spiderman needs the biggest nerf, having a character that can move around so freely and have both melee and long attacks with webs makes him seem like he shouldnt even be in the game at all. His movement are so unlike other characters even venom isnt as versatile.

In terms of buffs i think Rocket needs a buff big time. His healing ability is nowhere near as good as others, and his normal attack isnt very great either. His Ult is only good if people stay inside of it too.
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Reykam Dec 16, 2024 @ 3:46pm 
Spiderman is B tier at best, once you get to a point where people start actually playing the game and stack on top of each other he is literally useless and forced to swap.
One heal on his target and he just cant kill him no matter what he is forced to disengage, plus you will get instantly jumped on and one shotted.
PocketYoda Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:14pm 
Nerfs
Iron Fist (mobility nerf)
Hawkeye (hit box nerf and slight headshot nerf)
Scarlet witch (lock on nerf)
Moon Knight (damage lowered)
Mantis (slight heal nerf)
Luna Snow (Heal mobility nerf on ult)
Jeff (ult needs to be looked at) Stop him from suicide the enemy team
Dr Strange (portal suicide enemy team nerf)
Star lord (Lock on Nerf)
Psylocke (damage nerf)
Namor (less health on Squid things)
Punisher (damage nerf)
Winter Soldier (ult Nerf after 3 Agains...)

Buffs
Wolverine (needs an overhaul and damage buffs, maybe Regen)
Storm (hit box bigger on wind blades and chain lightning with dot on secondary)
Rocket (health Buff, BRB better more people ressed?, Ult heals faster, minigun full damage at 20m)
Captain America (needs more ranged attacks and arcing shield bounces)
Groots (Walls need more health and buffs)
Venom (Needs better mobility)
Peni (Needs Bombs buffs and more health on the main bomb)
Black widow (stingers attack (stun), no reloading like Hawkeye)
Magik (Slightly faster Attacking)
Magneto (needs an overhaul) faster attacks?
Squirrel Girl (ult overhaul, Better aiming on her acorns or bigger aoe.)
Thor (needs an unlimited primary ranged attack on Secondary)
Hulk (damage buff)

Not sure
Ironman Seems right, high damage, low health..
Spiderman Seems annoying, but doesn't kill much (his damage is on a season buff at the moment)
Cloak and Dagger Seems ok
Panther seems ok high difficulty to use matches his damage.
Adam Warlock.. May need a nerf but i don't see too many op Adams.
Hela not sure if we nerf Hela she will become very mid.
Last edited by PocketYoda; Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:33pm
SoloQ Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:18pm 
There don't seem to be any really powerful characters. But there are a few that feel weak compared to others of the same type.
I think a lot of people agree Storm feels weak outside of her ultimate. Adam might need something outside of "can revive nearby every now and then." Outside of that his healing is jumpy due to it being on CD while the others can largely spam heal and quickly reload. Wolverine feels too squishy at least compared to Black Panther and Iron Fist.

None of them feel over the top compared to the rest though.
My main issue is healing in general feels too much. It feels a bit too easy for a healer duo to keep their team full health or save them from death consistently. And that imo is why Hawkeye feels so strong, because that ability to delete someone from the fight for 10 seconds is powerful when if you don't their teammates will just heal them back to full in a second or two.

A lot of the characters people think are 'too strong' have counters to them. Yeah, some characters require specific counters. That's how games like these go. If your opponent has a lot of flyers on their side you probably don't want squirrel girl or scarlet witch.
Last edited by SoloQ; Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:23pm
Roland Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Storm (hit box bigger on wind blades and chain lightning with dot on secondary)
I was thinkin the same thing yesterday until I realized her Team-up with Loki gives her a chain lightning

She definitely needs SOMETHING... Personally I think a slight movement speed increase would help her greatly because once people start shooting at her, she's got nothing, and her needing line of sight for her buffs to be effective means you can't really hide-and-peek
Roland Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Shuyin178:
Originally posted by mHelroy:
Nerfs for Jeff , Hela, Hawkeye buffs for melee champs
I respectfully, and completely, disagree with buffs for melee characters. Melee characters are already really good at flanking the backline, making them any stronger would be completely oppressive and any other form of DPS character completely irrelevant to use.
The nerfs for Jeff, Hela, and Hawkeye would already do a lot to meta shift.

For the original post:
I'd want Storm to be buffed. She is one of the coolest characters in the roster, but she does next to nothing because of her damage ranges being the single worse given the type of character she is. She is an aerial character that cannot stray from her team because of how squishy, slow, and low damage she is.
With her Tornado/Thunder aura it takes 10/9 hits to kill a 250 HP character from 30+ meters away with her primary attack, at under 15 it still takes 5 regardless of aura making her the single weakest DPS in the entire game. Empowering herself only reduces each hit by 1, AND she is unable to headshot for bonus damage.
She has no instant speed like Iron Man's boost to match the movement of her allies to grant them her auras during all-ins unless she puts herself way out of position, just the Tornado aura that barely makes her any faster, and the empowered Tornado aura is only a 10 or 15% or so slow, which is not nearly enough, that alone needs its number doubled to mean anything when compared to the Thunder aura's periodic lightning strikes.
Storm herself only having 250 HP while being so slow makes her an extremely easy target for anyone to take down, even supports.
The best thing about Storm is that her primary attack pierces through enemies, but its at such low damage in its current state it means nothing.

A TLDR on what Storm needs: She needs her primary attack's damage increased by 10 and damage drop off drastically reworked due to her being an aerial character. She needs a bit more movement speed (7 m/s instead of 6 m/s) if she does not get a new movement ability. She needs her Empowered Tornado's aura to have a stronger slow effect to compete with her empowered Thunder aura. And she needs 50 more HP.
Ah a fellow disciple of the goddess.
Yes, agreed.
I also feel her area for the buffs/debuffs should be a cylinder and not a sphere, or at least make the sphere 50-100% bigger. Currently if she goes to average Iron man height she is not buffing her team
NavyKnight Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:30pm 
For Jeff the biggest thing for me is the ring that shows up on the ground is smaller than the area of effect his ult actually hits by at least an inch or more on screen.

Magik is the most OP in my opinion as of right now.
PocketYoda Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by Roland:
Originally posted by PocketYoda:
Storm (hit box bigger on wind blades and chain lightning with dot on secondary)
I was thinkin the same thing yesterday until I realized her Team-up with Loki gives her a chain lightning

She definitely needs SOMETHING... Personally I think a slight movement speed increase would help her greatly because once people start shooting at her, she's got nothing, and her needing line of sight for her buffs to be effective means you can't really hide-and-peek
With a high cooldown also dependant on loki to make her average maybe 5 shots a match isn't very good.

And if you fly too high your buffs are gone for the team.
Last edited by PocketYoda; Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:32pm
NavyKnight Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Iron fist being immune to knock back most of the time is bogus also.
Kyo Tanaka Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by NavyKnight:
Iron fist being immune to knock back most of the time is bogus also.
He's not immune to it most of the time. Counter prevents all forms of CC and damage and gives him health
R3d_Rain+ Dec 16, 2024 @ 5:09pm 
Buffs: Thor ult, Iron man retool, Rocket, Punisher's rmb (to be more useful against dive characters, either by giving a significant blind to people directly hit by it or just more damage; I think the blind is better but it has to be tested), Magik mobility (maybe she gets a shift back for landing an e), Scarlet (her auto should be like Cloak's, but perhaps more damage for having to actually aim it; her rmb feels kinda weak too), Black widow (too easy to dive, WAY lower damage output than hawkeye; I'm in favor of a rate of fire buff tbh, maybe a headshot buff but it'd have to be tested)

Nerf: Hela (LMB should be a projectile, not hit scan, but I'd be fine if it had a pierce property for losing hit scan), Psylocke (needs more spread on the lmb, and I wonder if it'd be okay if she was revealed from her invis at a certain range which wouldn't be a removal, just that whoever she's too close to she's revealed to them and only them, not the entire team), Dr Strange Shield cooldown is nuts, Hawkeye rate of fire, Jeff Ult Radius (but only a little bit, tbh he's kinda easy to kill when not submerged, he's otherwise totally fine)

For Iron Man, his micro missile needs to be worked into an actual usable ability and he needs some way to defend himself. He's very exposed and whenever he's doing damage, it's easy for him to be killed by over half the roster. I think LMB and RMB should be condensed to 1 and 2, Micro missile should become a usable ability on RMB, and F should become some kind of shield for him. I'm not sure what'd be best; there's a lot of options that could be tested. An idea for micro missile is to let it be a 12 ammo ability with a fast recharge and you can just point and shoot one where you want it; if you did that I wouldn't buff its damage. But there's plenty of things it could become if not that.

When I first started playing I felt like every character had something a little bs about them and maybe that was fine if you knew how to abuse it well enough since they're all superheroes and ♥♥♥♥, and I think about a game like Starcraft BroodWar or League where everyone's got something a little ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but it ends up being fine in the end. So while things like moon knight burst or wanda ult or iron man ult or whatever it is that's haunting the bronzies seems really strong, it's probably fine. The nerfs I mentioned are what's dominating competitive play, even in gold where I am.
Last edited by R3d_Rain+; Dec 16, 2024 @ 5:10pm
Needs buffs:
Black Widow
Hulk
Captain America
Storm
Thor
Wolverine

Needs nerfs:
Hawkeye
Hela
Iron Fist
Jeff
Psylocke
Scarlet Witch


Needs sidegrade:
Doctor Strange: Boring AF, his kit is barren of fun.
Iron Man: His rockets while jetting need to be changed to be usable
Magneto: He's too caught out when he's on CD, he blows without his sword.
Spider-Man: Skill floor too high. I do not want this to be a hero almost nobody can play because everyone WANTS to play him and those people are a liability to my fun.
dragonoftime27 Dec 16, 2024 @ 5:28pm 
no nerfs are needed. dont have any ideas for buffs
Skunk Dec 16, 2024 @ 5:36pm 
Start by removing seasonal boosts. How can they balance anything when random heroes get a passive bonus to damage/health/healing.

Imagine playing Counter Strike and the terrorists get a 20% damage boost because it's their time of the month. Idiotic.
Last edited by Skunk; Dec 16, 2024 @ 5:45pm
PocketYoda Dec 16, 2024 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by Skunk:
Start by removing seasonal boosts. How can they balance anything when random heroes get a passive bonus to damage/health/healing.

Imagine playing Counter Strike and the terrorists get a 20% damage boost because it's their time of the month. Idiotic.
Agreed 100% stupid idea.
asphyxia Dec 16, 2024 @ 10:42pm 
Widow feels very lackluster right now, either nerf Hawkeye to deal the same amount of damage (or just reduce his arrow hitbox size since you can aim for chest and still get a headshot) as she does or buff her to also give her 1 shot headshots on non-squishies.
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