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Aliner Dec 16, 2024 @ 1:45am
My personal to-nerf and to-buff list
So I just wanna tell my opinion about too OP and too weak abilities/heroes in Marvel Rivals.

Luna Snow ult lasts too long, heals too much and cant be stopped without any powerful burst damage (like maximum pulse) and nobody uses damage boost because healing is too OP
Iron Fist having like all kind of abilities (insane movement, shield, stacking hp, auto-aim)
Jeff`s ult just removes enemies from the point/payload and if u swallowed 3 or more players u can do almost easy mass kill. Also cant understand the point of his swiming ability not having cooldown at all.
Hela`s ult just... Something. Because at the moment she just floats away and cant even die, just can be interrupted but its like nearly possible because for some reason she gains an insane amount of HP while ulting.

About weak abilities/heroes
Cant understand why Captain America`s shield having a second or two cooldown when u putting shield down. Whats the point?
Rocket Racoon`s spheres of healing flying too fast I guess, so they barely healing.
Bruce Banner is kinda weak. Yeah, I understand that he must be weak, but in current meta he`s just an easy target to kill, which makes him kinda pointless.
Also I cant understand this "club of 3rd in a row". I mean something like Moon Knight`s or Groot`s melee attacks, when only third doing some useful effort but its just hits too slow to reach that 3rd attack.
Last edited by Aliner; Dec 16, 2024 @ 2:31am
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Mochan Dec 16, 2024 @ 2:27am 
Luna and Jeff ults are strong, I agree. But I don't think nerfing them is necessary.

Iron Fist is weak and easily countered, all his abilities do diddly squat when Mantis knocks his soul out and kills him. He is fine.

Hela is annoying. Just hide behind a wall when she shouts her ult out.

Captain America shield cooldown is pointless, I agree. That needs to go.
Rocket you could make them slower so they're closer to how Moira's balls work, but not particularly necessary. I have no problems getting top healer award every single time as Rocket if I play him all game.
Banner is Baby Dva. He's supposed to be weak and die.
Moon Knight can easily get 3 kills, I mean I can get 4 kills in a row as Jeff without using his Ult. Moon Knight has it much easier. Groot can do it too if contesting point. I do it all the time with Peni when contesting point.
Rahk Dec 16, 2024 @ 2:30am 
Rockets healing is fine aside from him not really being able to burst heal at all, it would be nice to do a charged healing shot that uses all the healing charges and punishes you with a longer reload or something but it's kinda unnecessary. The real big shame with rocket is how little bonus health his armor packs grant, 25 is nothing it should at minimum be 100, also his rocket packs should move you in the direction you look when activated not straight up in the air
Last edited by Rahk; Dec 16, 2024 @ 2:32am
Aliner Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Mochan:
Luna and Jeff ults are strong, I agree. But I don't think nerfing them is necessary.

Iron Fist is weak and easily countered, all his abilities do diddly squat when Mantis knocks his soul out and kills him. He is fine.

Hela is annoying. Just hide behind a wall when she shouts her ult out.

Captain America shield cooldown is pointless, I agree. That needs to go.
Rocket you could make them slower so they're closer to how Moira's balls work, but not particularly necessary. I have no problems getting top healer award every single time as Rocket if I play him all game.
Banner is Baby Dva. He's supposed to be weak and die.
Moon Knight can easily get 3 kills, I mean I can get 4 kills in a row as Jeff without using his Ult. Moon Knight has it much easier. Groot can do it too if contesting point. I do it all the time with Peni when contesting point.
Baby D.Va washt so pointless, at least in OW1. As a D.Va mainer in past I can say that D.Va was having a significant chance to survive before summoning other mech while Banner cant stay even a second.
Sonrangeri Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:32am 
For your opinion about Rocket, I'd rather see his Dash being able to move direction you're going instead of going forward only. It would help him dealing with those melee divers who eat you for breakfast when you're backing out.
I can't really suggest too much, I'm still learning a lot of character. The only two things I feel could use changing are.

I'm pretty possitive that they will adjust or change Jeff's ultimate eventually. Anything that heavily restricts or down right disable peoples ability to control their character is always frowned up. The question is how are they going to do it.

Personally, I think they're just going to reduce Jeff's movement speed during the ultimate, maybe even go as far as make it that he can barely move at all during it. So the chances of him being able to suicide and instant kill everyone he has captures drops down little to no chance of it ever happening unless he's captures them when he's practically already in the death pit at it's start.

Small change to Punishers Smoke Grenade so that the smoke takes about 1 more second before it starts disappearing then it currently done.
Last edited by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer; Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:44am
Mochan Dec 16, 2024 @ 4:40am 
They can probably make it that the more people Jeff captured, the slower he moves.
Lag Dec 22, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
The only one I dont agree with is Bruce Banner being buffed, being returned to Banner when playing the hulk means you effectively died, the point of Bruce Banner is to give you a small chance to come back faster than you would otherwise. Besides Ive had a couple games now where no one was able to finish off the enemy bruce banner (this was in low plat) so he was just constantly switching back to hulk, skill issue for sure but buffing him would make it more common
OMEGA Dec 22, 2024 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by Aliner:
Originally posted by Mochan:
Luna and Jeff ults are strong, I agree. But I don't think nerfing them is necessary.

Iron Fist is weak and easily countered, all his abilities do diddly squat when Mantis knocks his soul out and kills him. He is fine.

Hela is annoying. Just hide behind a wall when she shouts her ult out.

Captain America shield cooldown is pointless, I agree. That needs to go.
Rocket you could make them slower so they're closer to how Moira's balls work, but not particularly necessary. I have no problems getting top healer award every single time as Rocket if I play him all game.
Banner is Baby Dva. He's supposed to be weak and die.
Moon Knight can easily get 3 kills, I mean I can get 4 kills in a row as Jeff without using his Ult. Moon Knight has it much easier. Groot can do it too if contesting point. I do it all the time with Peni when contesting point.
Baby D.Va washt so pointless, at least in OW1. As a D.Va mainer in past I can say that D.Va was having a significant chance to survive before summoning other mech while Banner cant stay even a second.
banner gets insta killed every time
id795078477 Dec 22, 2024 @ 4:45pm 
-- Hela can be burned down almost instantly. Just aim at her head. Failing that, Strange blocks her ult entirely by pressing two abilities.
-- Hulk is mained by #1 player in MR. He is a hero that needs a team and strategy to work.
-- Jeff is a one trick pony and anywhere mid-tier+ he falls off hard because other supports offer so much more beyond a gimmick ult
-- Rocket's blobs need positioning and aiming, it needs some practice. Which is good. Having a room to improve makes it worth playing.
-- Luna Snow's ult needs to be able to counter DPS ults which is precisely what it does. It's a strategy and team play on who baits the ults first, so a fair and square game.
-- Iron Fist is just a pub-stomper, if the target is peeled for, he just doesn't get any picks. OTPs can make him work of course, but with the effort they invest they should honestly just go Magik for melee DPS
Nokturnal Dec 22, 2024 @ 4:47pm 
Banner's Projectiles and Grenade need a buff to not be so useless, projectile speed is too slow and Grenade's AoE is like as big as an Acorn currently lol. Make it big and perhaps put a DoT on the ground.

Currently having his human form in the game is completely pointless.

Magneto needs to not have his shields sharing a Cooldown and reduce the Cooldown, it already doesn't last long and the cooldown is insane.

Rocket needs better healing to compete with the other healers, perhaps the Ball at least bounces between allies or something instead of the walls, anything is better than it's current iteration.

Venom needs a DPS boost to his non-ult abilities.

Wolverine and Black Panther should just be turned into tanks, buff their HP, buff their defensive abilities, nerf their damage. Wolverine could still be a Tank-killer, just in Tank-form lol. So we can have like Hulk vs Wolverine fights that don't just end in Wolverine instantly getting deleted.
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Kyutaru Dec 22, 2024 @ 4:52pm 
Most of these complaints completely shutdown when you're in a team playing effectively together. Pro teams don't just let Hela stay in the sky, they either hide or all 6 of them look at the sky together and take her down, depending on the team's decision.

Issues like the complaints in this thread arise when everyone's playing their own game with no coordination, no team effort, no communication. You'll find certain heroes are pubstompers but ineffective against a real team that is properly synergized and cooperating.
RhodosGuard Dec 22, 2024 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by Kyutaru:
Most of these complaints completely shutdown when you're in a team playing effectively together. Pro teams don't just let Hela stay in the sky, they either hide or all 6 of them look at the sky together and take her down, depending on the team's decision.

Issues like the complaints in this thread arise when everyone's playing their own game with no coordination, no team effort, no communication. You'll find certain heroes are pubstompers but ineffective against a real team that is properly synergized and cooperating.
Please point me towards how I, as a solo Q player, will get such a team with role queue being hard denied?

If 99% of the community will not ever see this kind of coordination, because the system by which you are matched is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of epic proportion, then this might as well not exist. It doesnt matter that in 6-Man Premades Hela doesnt get as much Ult-Value, because a lot of people do not play 6-man premades, and because there is no roleqeueue, noone is coordingating anything with their party.

"It's easy to counter this character, you just need to convince your 5-20 Spiderman to switch to Mantis, and your 50-1-2 Jeff to actually use his healing, one of the 3 other Duelists to play Magneto, the 3-12 Venom to switch to Strange, and then get all of them to just do the things necessary to counter them, it's so easy hahahaha"
Ven Dec 22, 2024 @ 8:02pm 
Originally posted by RhodosGuard:
Please point me towards how I, as a solo Q player, will get such a team with role queue being hard denied?

If 99% of the community will not ever see this kind of coordination, because the system by which you are matched is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of epic proportion, then this might as well not exist. It doesnt matter that in 6-Man Premades Hela doesnt get as much Ult-Value, because a lot of people do not play 6-man premades, and because there is no roleqeueue, noone is coordingating anything with their party.

"It's easy to counter this character, you just need to convince your 5-20 Spiderman to switch to Mantis, and your 50-1-2 Jeff to actually use his healing, one of the 3 other Duelists to play Magneto, the 3-12 Venom to switch to Strange, and then get all of them to just do the things necessary to counter them, it's so easy hahahaha"

I hate the argument that just because players aren't intelligent enough to use a counter that there is a balance issue. As player skill level increases natural coordination comes with it. Use your microphone and get to a higher rank. Play with friends or make some in game
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Date Posted: Dec 16, 2024 @ 1:45am
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