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Is Overwatch experience a must to play this game?
I feel like everyone who plays played Overwatch. Should I buy Overwatch and play that game for about a year or two before jumping into Marvel Rivals or should I just play Marvel Rivals and be dead weight to my teammates for not having Overwatch experience?
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just play marvel cause most people in the game are dead weight anyway even though overwatch has been out for ages now
Messaggio originale di R̶͕͑a̵̞͌g̴̼̋è̵̩:
Pretty easy to learn just keep playing casual matches. Trial and error. Everyone learns at a different pace :D
I just feel bad because Psylocke is supposed to be good but I am doing little dmg due to missihng all my shots so I am always dead weight to my team :(
Messaggio originale di Hippno:
just play marvel cause most people in the game are dead weight anyway even though overwatch has been out for ages now
lol I kinda enjoy being deadweight TBH. I like letting my good teammates carry my scrub ass. I always tell them "carry harder bums!" Funny stuff all in good fun of course. xD
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
Messaggio originale di Anghellic:
Both games are free what’s this “buy” thing
I was just wondering if I should start with OVerwatch first since this game is kind of like the Advanced Algebra while Overwatch is the Intro to Algebra?

There's no point, why learn in Overwatch to play Rivals, when you can just play Rivals to learn RIvals?

That's like asking, I want to learn Japanese, should I move to China and learn Chinese for two years before moving to Japan?
Messaggio originale di Mochan:
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
I was just wondering if I should start with OVerwatch first since this game is kind of like the Advanced Algebra while Overwatch is the Intro to Algebra?

There's no point, why learn in Overwatch to play Rivals, when you can just play Rivals to learn RIvals?

That's like asking, I want to learn Japanese, should I move to China and learn Chinese for two years before moving to Japan?
I ask because someone told me Overwatch is basically the intro to Algebra class whereas Marvel rivals is the Advanced Algebra class. They told me Overwatch is the game that will prepare you for Rivals since Rivals is the more complex game to learn. That is why I asked if I should learn Overwatch so I am not a useless teammate in Rivals because right now I am literally dead weight for my team since I cant aim for ♥♥♥♥ with Psylocke lol
Rivals is not the more complex game to learn, if anything Rivals is the easy game and Overwatch is the complex game to learn.

If your issue is aim you can learn that in any FPS game. Better to learn it as Psylocke so you get proficiency in using and playing Psylocke.
Ultima modifica da Mochan; 15 dic 2024, ore 23:12
Messaggio originale di Mochan:
Rivals is not the more complex game to learn, if anything Rivals is the easy game and Overwatch is the complex game to learn.

If your issue is aim you can learn that in any FPS game. Better to learn it as Psylocke so you get proficiency in using and playing Psylocke.
I feel like if I mastered Genji in Overwatch, I can probably play Psylocke better. If that is the case, then would you recommend I get Overwatch to master Genji so I can play Psylocke better?

I truly do feel like at this point, my lack of Overwatch experience is causing me to lose and make my team lose too, so I just feel super guilty playing this game and causing my team to lose :(
Ultima modifica da Joeycentral; 15 dic 2024, ore 23:38
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
Messaggio originale di Ishtaros:
then to start playing overwatch you need to start from TF2 first? lol what
Rivals is nothing like TF2. Meanwhile it is a literal clone of Overwatch.

first off, they didn't say tf2 is like marvel rivals. they didn't even say it was like overwatch. they're using your own logic to point out how weird it is.

second, rivals is NOT a clone of ow lmao. i think it's honestly a bit crazy that you have such a bold opinion on these games when you don't know how to play either game.

there are obvious similarities, but none of the characters are an exact one-to-one of each other. and so while having overwatch knowledge might help you understand some abilities, ults, or the general idea of how you should play a character (all of which you can do without playing ow2, it just takes like an extra hour or so if you're slow), it's not like it's gonna make you infinitely better at the game.

widowmaker and black widow are a good example of characters that are similar in concept but outside of that, knowing the abilities of one won't help you to play the other. both are hit-scan snipers but they both have completely different ults and cooldowns. hell, even their potential for one-shots is different. widowmaker can one-shot anyone under 300hp (without sheilds) up to 50 meters away, which is where her damage starts to fall off. meanwhile black widow can't one-shot any hero at full health because she only does 120 dmg per shot and most heroes have 200+ hp and her falloff begins at 10 meters.

not to mention their cooldowns and ults. widowmaker uses a grapple to move fast, black widow has no grapple, she sprints, which widowmaker cannot do. black widow has a baton she can use to do 45dmg per hit (with up to 2 hits per second), widowmaker can only melee and that only does 40 dmg per hit (with up to 1 hit per second). widowmaker has a venom mine that can do dmg to enemies that set it off, blacm widow has no ability for that.
Ultima modifica da feebie; 16 dic 2024, ore 2:02
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
I feel like everyone who plays played Overwatch. Should I buy Overwatch and play that game for about a year or two before jumping into Marvel Rivals or should I just play Marvel Rivals and be dead weight to my teammates for not having Overwatch experience?
No, It helps though. But to start playing OW to learn Rivals isn't the answer. What you could do. Is use the TONS of Overwatch coaching material that's available and apply that to Rivals. Here is a gold game in rivals that looks a lot like an Overwatch game. Id assume most of these players were from OW.

But other than that if you feel like watching it. Spilo is good for high level tips and strategies, Stylosa is good for the more casual player that just wants to be better. For just good gameplay streaming and takes on the game Flats, Emongg and Jay3 have all moved over to rivals. The two games have similar game loops and hero design.Strategists are supports vanguards are tanks duelists are damage.

Not saying I'm the best player in the world but I was pretty high ranked when I took OW seriously and I'm climbing pretty fast here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGTHBEFbaBc
Ultima modifica da Krunkford; 15 dic 2024, ore 23:48
Messaggio originale di Krunkford:
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
I feel like everyone who plays played Overwatch. Should I buy Overwatch and play that game for about a year or two before jumping into Marvel Rivals or should I just play Marvel Rivals and be dead weight to my teammates for not having Overwatch experience?
No, It helps though. But to start playing OW to learn Rivals isn't the answer. What you could do. Is use the TONS of Overwatch coaching material that's available and apply that to Rivals. Here is a gold game in rivals that look a lot like an Overwatch game. Id assume most of these players were from OW.

But other than that if you feel like watching it. Spilo is good for high level tips and strategies, Stylosa is good for the more casual player that just wants to be better. For just good gameplay streaming and takes on the game Flats, Emongg and Jay3 have all moved over to rivals. The two games have similar game loops and hero design.Strategists are supports vanguards are tanks duelists are damage.

Not saying I'm the nest player in the world but I was pretty high ranked when I took OW seriously and I'm climbing pretty fast here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGTHBEFbaBc
I watch those guys and they make Psylocke look S tier. Meanwhile, I make her look F tier. That is what makes me want to play Overwatch first so I can perform as well as those guys.
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
Messaggio originale di Krunkford:
No, It helps though. But to start playing OW to learn Rivals isn't the answer. What you could do. Is use the TONS of Overwatch coaching material that's available and apply that to Rivals. Here is a gold game in rivals that look a lot like an Overwatch game. Id assume most of these players were from OW.

But other than that if you feel like watching it. Spilo is good for high level tips and strategies, Stylosa is good for the more casual player that just wants to be better. For just good gameplay streaming and takes on the game Flats, Emongg and Jay3 have all moved over to rivals. The two games have similar game loops and hero design.Strategists are supports vanguards are tanks duelists are damage.

Not saying I'm the nest player in the world but I was pretty high ranked when I took OW seriously and I'm climbing pretty fast here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGTHBEFbaBc
I watch those guys and they make Psylocke look S tier. Meanwhile, I make her look F tier. That is what makes me want to play Overwatch first so I can perform as well as those guys.

Its all stuff you can legit pick up through practice and learning things like positioning cool-down management. A lot of being good at these types of games comes from understanding them. Things like when to engage or disengage, when to flank, when not to flank, target priority. Its all stuff that you can at least get an idea of through coaching video or general tips. Then you can put that to practice here. OW at this point would be extremely hard to get into!

The player base is VERY good after 8 years. You'll do far better learning the basics of how it all works then learning the mechanics of this game where you don't have nothing but veteran players to worry about. Right now youre with a good 60% of the player base being new to hero shooters so its a good time and place to learn if you want to get good at them.

Like if you watch that video I posted. youll see how I position and how I move to off angles, or high ground, or completely back out and regroup a few time. I build ult incredibly fast so i used ULT twice as area denial so they couldnt take ground during regroups, stuff like that will be learned by playing though. (39 seconds for my first ULT in this match)
Ultima modifica da Krunkford; 16 dic 2024, ore 0:04
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
Messaggio originale di Mochan:
Rivals is not the more complex game to learn, if anything Rivals is the easy game and Overwatch is the complex game to learn.

If your issue is aim you can learn that in any FPS game. Better to learn it as Psylocke so you get proficiency in using and playing Psylocke.
I feel like if I mastered Genji in Overwatch, I can probably play Psylocke better. If that is the case, then would you recommend I get Overwatch to master Genji so I can play Psylocke better?

I truly do feel like at this point, my lack of Overwatch experience is causing me to lose and make my team lose too, so I just feel super guilty playing this game and causing my team to lose :(

Seriously bad idea. While a lot of people (including me) see the huge similarities between Genji and Psylocke, the same holds true for Genji and Moon Knight, and actually Genji's play style is closer to Moonknight's. Psylocke lacks a lot of what makes Genji Genji: no double jump, no wall climb, no deflect, and her Ult is closer to Reaper's than Genji's.

Learning Genji will not make you play a better Psylocke. Instead, learn Psylocke, so you can play a better Psylocke.

What you do need to learn, is the positioning and flanking tactics of a Genji. But again you can't use them 1:1 because a.) the maps are different and b.) more importantly Psylocke lacks Genji's mobility. So you can't approach the enemy from the same angles a Genji would. So actually what you need to learn are the basics of flanking as a DPS. You don't need to play Overwatch to learn that. You can learn it from Rivals.
To help you out a bit, here's a couple of videos of me playing Jeff The Shark like a Genji.

Jeff actually plays closer to Genji than Psylocke does because he has mobility closer to Genji's, which lets him attack from angles similar to Genji.

Short clip of Jeff flanking like a Genji:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQR1dyzgXZo
Notice how I flank around a flanking route where the enemies aren't passing, wait for them to pass me so they expose their backline to me, wait for them to engage my main team, and then strike behind them while they're distracted. I also do this while swimming so the enemy can't hear me coming.


Full round of me playing Jeff like Genji:
https://youtu.be/-lA-v34taBA?si=EciBLNAElbMuMVij
Here's how you put that into action in an entire round. Sneak around, listen for enemy, attack from behind when they are busy. Notice how I hide and approach the Squirrel Girl at first. I commander the High Ground, which huge gives advantage. Squirrel Girl tries to take away high ground in the rematch but I use sneaky tactics to show her I'm boss of the high ground, and she stops trying and approaches from the bottom. Next Starlord. Notice how I disengage from Starlord because it's not a favorable fight. Then I hide, listen to his footfalls and gunfire to figure out where he is and when he is busy, then I approach behind and dispose of him. I get caught by Peni though but that's a risk all Genjis have to take. If she didn't have a stun I would have escaped to strike again.
Ultima modifica da Mochan; 16 dic 2024, ore 0:27
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Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
I feel like if I mastered Genji in Overwatch, I can probably play Psylocke better. If that is the case, then would you recommend I get Overwatch to master Genji so I can play Psylocke better?

I truly do feel like at this point, my lack of Overwatch experience is causing me to lose and make my team lose too, so I just feel super guilty playing this game and causing my team to lose :(

Seriously bad idea. While a lot of people (including me) see the huge similarities between Genji and Psylocke, the same holds true for Genji and Moon Knight, and actually Genji's play style is closer to Moonknight's. Psylocke lacks a lot of what makes Genji Genji: no double jump, no wall climb, no deflect, and her Ult is closer to Reaper's than Genji's.

Learning Genji will not make you play a better Psylocke. Instead, learn Psylocke, so you can play a better Psylocke.

What you do need to learn, is the positioning and flanking tactics of a Genji. But again you can't use them 1:1 because a.) the maps are different and b.) more importantly Psylocke lacks Genji's mobility. So you can't approach the enemy from the same angles a Genji would. So actually what you need to learn are the basics of flanking as a DPS. You don't need to play Overwatch to learn that. You can learn it from Rivals.
Are there coaching services that teach you all of that? Cuz TBH I just cannot learn this stuff on my own cuz I never played a game like this that is that complex.
Messaggio originale di Joeycentral:
I feel like everyone who plays played Overwatch. Should I buy Overwatch and play that game for about a year or two before jumping into Marvel Rivals or should I just play Marvel Rivals and be dead weight to my teammates for not having Overwatch experience?
Makes sense why there are so many toxic kids in ranked that have no idea what they are doing, they've never played a team game like this but think they are the ♥♥♥♥
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