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Veenix Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:22pm
Need role Q
First week I'm playing and it seems like all the kiddos are playing on the weekends. Nothing but insta locking DPS. I do not want to play as solo support with 5 dps, give us role Q already.
This is something we have been asking for since Beta. Why ask for feedback during Beta when you are just going to ignore it in the first place? Pretty much everyone playing back then asked for it!
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Baxxy.Nut Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:23pm 
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
the poopshitter Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:28pm 
Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
Scythez Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:30pm 
Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
You are one of this trash who instalock dps right? So you dont want longer q for you...
Baxxy.Nut Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Scythez:
Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
You are one of this trash who instalock dps right? So you dont want longer q for you...
No, I can either play the roles needed or make friends lol. I don't expect the world to cater to me. Do better.
melonLord Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:31pm 
Originally posted by Scythez:
Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
You are one of this trash who instalock dps right? So you dont want longer q for you...
I'm a support main. Ive played Vanguard but I legit dont think I've touched a DPS class yet. Go make friends or play overwatch.
Last edited by melonLord; Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:32pm
Veenix Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:33pm 
Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
What's wrong with role Q? Give me one good reason against it?
There are plenty of people playing so it won't have any impact whatsoever on Q times for either gamemode.
or2dash Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:34pm 
You don't need 1 hour queue times
melonLord Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:34pm 
Originally posted by Veenix:
Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
What's wrong with role Q? Give me one good reason against it?
There are plenty of people playing so it won't have any impact whatsoever on Q times for either gamemode.
Limits team comp possibilities which makes the game feel a bit more stale.
Veenix Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by or2dash:
You don't need 1 hour queue times
With the amount of people playing, there won't be Q times whatsoever.
Veenix Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by melonLord:
Originally posted by Veenix:
What's wrong with role Q? Give me one good reason against it?
There are plenty of people playing so it won't have any impact whatsoever on Q times for either gamemode.
Limits team comp possibilities which makes the game feel a bit more stale.
Not if it is a seperate gamemode, you can play no role, while others do role Q.
the poopshitter Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:41pm 
Originally posted by Veenix:
Originally posted by Baxxy.Nut:
No. Make friends or go play overwatch. It's really that simple.
What's wrong with role Q? Give me one good reason against it?
There are plenty of people playing so it won't have any impact whatsoever on Q times for either gamemode.
- Has been proven time and time again to be disastrous for long-term player retention in any game it's enforced in. Devs are finally learning this it seems, at least I'd hope so, so they're not touching role queue with a ten foot pole. It's an experimental fad that never worked for the purpose it was intended for.
- DOES dramatically increase queue times, no matter what you pretend. Going from less than 10 seconds to minutes is a pretty noticeable increase.
- Makes the experience worse even for support/tank players without addressing the actual core problem, just a symptom of it. What role queue ends up giving you is just players picking ""support"" or ""tank"" but actually playing them like they're DPS since they're just doing it to skip queue times (this is even more likely to be a problem in this game if role queue were to be implemented due to how good the damage of even supports/tanks is if you learn to play them well), so in essence you'd still be the only useful support/tank most of the time if you actually tried to play to your role.
- The meta is ever-changing as players adapt to the game and it's far from always optimal to have a set amount of DPS/healers/supports every single match. The reason you're losing isn't because people are stacking 5 DPS while you're the only support, it's because your teammates are ♥♥♥♥ at being DPS. This will not change whatsoever with role queue, the average DPS player is trash and you'll keep losing, role queue or not.
- People should be allowed to change heroes and roles mid-match no matter what role they pick initially. It's a core concept of the hero shooter genre that dumpster fires like Overwatch decided to forget. Matches get stale quickly without it as things are even less likely to change mid-match if you're stomping the enemy team or getting stomped. Also, it's a game. Games should allow you to experiment and do silly things in it like stack 6 DPS or 6 tanks, especially in premades.
melonLord Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:44pm 
EDIT: Also all of that ^^^^^ lol

Originally posted by Veenix:
Originally posted by melonLord:
Limits team comp possibilities which makes the game feel a bit more stale.
Not if it is a seperate gamemode, you can play no role, while others do role Q.
And that's dividing the playerbase which is a risk in and of itself.
First, it makes the long que times more likely. Player numbers are healthy now but none of us know where it'll be in half a year or a year or two. Theres also the fact that once you divide the playerbase once it makes it that much more of a risk to make a new mode to divide them again which, limits what the devs may want to do in the future. Then theres the whole potential tribalism issue which may or may not crop up with that but thats a whole other thing I'm not gonna go into. lol

Not worth. Especially when most people in the community seem to not want it.
Last edited by melonLord; Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:47pm
the poopshitter Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Veenix:
Originally posted by melonLord:
Limits team comp possibilities which makes the game feel a bit more stale.
Not if it is a seperate gamemode, you can play no role, while others do role Q.
Splitting the playerbase like that for identical gamemodes but just with different methods of queueing for them is never a good idea and will just increase queue times for both modes even more than if it was one uniform thing. This game won't have millions of daily concurrent players forever, either, so the downsides of it will only get worse over time.
Baxxy.Nut Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by Veenix:
Originally posted by melonLord:
Limits team comp possibilities which makes the game feel a bit more stale.
Not if it is a seperate gamemode, you can play no role, while others do role Q.
splits the playerbase, which will end up with longer queues. No reason to split a playerbase like that.
Veenix Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by B.W.S:
Originally posted by Veenix:
What's wrong with role Q? Give me one good reason against it?
There are plenty of people playing so it won't have any impact whatsoever on Q times for either gamemode.
- Has been proven time and time again to be disastrous for long-term player retention in any game it's enforced in. Devs are finally learning this it seems, at least I'd hope so, so they're not touching role queue with a ten foot pole. It's an experimental fad that never worked for the purpose it was intended for.
- DOES dramatically increase queue times, no matter what you pretend. Going from less than 10 seconds to minutes is a pretty noticeable increase.
- Makes the experience worse even for support/tank players without addressing the actual core problem, just a symptom of it. What role queue ends up giving you is just players picking ""support"" or ""tank"" but actually playing them like they're DPS since they're just doing it to skip queue times (this is even more likely to be a problem in this game if role queue were to be implemented due to how good the damage of even supports/tanks is if you learn to play them well), so in essence you'd still be the only useful support/tank most of the time if you actually tried to play to your role.
- The meta is ever-changing as players adapt to the game and it's far from always optimal to have a set amount of DPS/healers/supports every single match. The reason you're losing isn't because people are stacking 5 DPS while you're the only support, it's because your teammates are ♥♥♥♥ at being DPS. This will not change whatsoever with role queue, the average DPS player is trash and you'll keep losing, role queue or not.
- People should be allowed to change heroes and roles mid-match no matter what role they pick initially. It's a core concept of the hero shooter genre that dumpster fires like Overwatch decided to forget. Matches get stale quickly without it as things are even less likely to change mid-match if you're stomping the enemy team or getting stomped. Also, it's a game. Games should allow you to experiment and do silly things in it like stack 6 DPS or 6 tanks, especially in premades.

- You are purely looking at Overwatch, that is just one example you have.
Just because Overwatch fell off due to Blizzard's greedy moves which caused players to leave, doesn't mean that will happen in every game like it. So your first argument is neglectable as u only have a single example.
- We have instant Q right now, it will not increase Q times and if it does then it shows what THE MAJORITY OF THE PLAYERBASE WANTS as they will be Q'ing for that specific gamemode.
- Role Q does have an impact on winrate, people that choose to Q for a specific role usually are decent at that role. Even with bad dps, if you have 2 decent supports and a decent tank or two, you still have a way higher chance of winning due to the roles being more balanced. This is exactly why people are asking for role Q.
- You can still experiment all you want in a non role Q gamemode. For swapping roles: there could always be an option added where u ask someone else to swap roles mid game even during role Q. Role Q doesn't have to look like the one from Overwatch, it could be that there a certain amount of slots per role available with a request option to swap with another player. Stop having your mind in the Overwatch box, this isn't Overwatch.
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Date Posted: Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:22pm
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