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Abomination713 Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:25pm
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Peni needs a big nerf.
There's no reason she needs to have a ranged weapon with zero reloading and a faster fire rate that puts Strange and Magneto to shame. Being able to heal off of her placement drone is an interesting idea, but why in the world can she heal off of her webbing that she can lay in 3 different spots? It's her stun, but also her healing and it's on a 3 second cooldown which is wild since Hulk's single stun is on a 15 second cooldown. Which means she can keep moving forward and laying down new webs to heal the whole time. The healing needs to be locked to the placement only and she should have to reload her weapons like everyone else!

The devs really put zero time or effort into balancing the different heroes in this game. Ranged will always beat melee characters in equally matched teams and I warned the devs about this 5 months ago during the beta. I don't understand how you can spend all this time making a game, but ♥♥♥♥ it up so bad and let your player base bleed off cause you couldn't take a weekend to balance certain characters or skills.
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Shuyin178 Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:37pm 
Peni has the shoulder shots to make her unique among the other tanks, but they also don't deal a lot of damage.
She does not heal off of her web zones, she gains temporary armor, so if she's forced out of the zone she loses the armor.
Her web stun is one of the few forms of hard CC in the game that is needed to help peel for her allies she is staying near unlike characters like Hulk, Thor, or Captain America that go running off leaving the backline to fend for themselves.
Her spider drone nest can also be destroyed which removes a large amount of her tank stats and damage on top of it.

Peni is one of the more balanced characters in the game, if she is being strong it's the enemy team being silly running into her mines.
Last edited by Shuyin178; Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:39pm
774 Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:37pm 
She is not OP get real. If you genuinely think she is better than Thor you're kinda crazy. She's probably one of the weaker tanks that only gets value if you play heavy dive or leave her alone to do her thing.
Abomination713 Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Shuyin178:
Peni has the shoulder shots to make her unique among the other tanks, but they also don't deal a lot of damage.
She does not heal off of her web zones, she gains temporary armor, so if she's forced out of the zone she loses the armor.
Her web stun is one of the few forms of hard CC in the game that is needed to help peel for her allies she is staying near unlike characters like Hulk, Thor, or Captain America that go running off leaving the backline to fend for themselves.
Her spider drone nest can also be destroyed which removes a large amount of her tank stats and damage on top of it.

Peni is one of the more balanced characters in the game, if she is being strong it's the enemy team being silly running into her mines.
She does heal off the web and also gets overheal from it. If you don't believe me, go into practice mode and get hurt down to 100 HP and stand in a small web. She doesn't start losing her overheal when she leaves her web for 3 seconds which is enough time to put a new web down. While her shots are weaker, a miss means little as you fire fast enough to make up for that miss and never have to reload. If she is getting healed by a single healer and while on her web (that you can't destroy) she becomes an incredible menace that you can't get rid of.
Last edited by Abomination713; Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:47pm
Uncanny_Vorgor Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:48pm 
she isn't op at all
dragonoftime27 Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:50pm 
She's fine. not in need of a nerf
Evili Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:52pm 
Don't touch her
Originally posted by Abomination713:
There's no reason she needs to have a ranged weapon with zero reloading and a faster fire rate that puts Strange and Magneto to shame.
Peni's weapon has low/mediocre damage and it can't headshot. It doesn't matter that "her fire rate is faster" if she does less DPS than Strange.
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Being able to heal off of her placement drone is an interesting idea, but why in the world can she heal off of her webbing that she can lay in 3 different spots?
I don't think I've ever seen a Peni with more thank 4k self healing at the end of a match. Meanwhile, I've soaked twice that damage with Venom's and Strange's shield alone.
Originally posted by Abomination713:
It's her stun, but also her healing and it's on a 3 second cooldown which is wild since Hulk's single stun is on a 15 second cooldown.
It's a very slow, easy to avoid stun, and Spider-Man has a better version of it.
Originally posted by Abomination713:
The healing needs to be locked to the placement only and she should have to reload her weapons like everyone else!
Again with the healing. You don't seem to understand that every other tank in the game gets an extra health bar, which Peni doesn't have.
Abomination713 Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:07pm 
Originally posted by magnesium-based lifeform:
That's a lot of words to say you don't know what you're talking about.

Strange has a slower rate of fire and slower projectiles and the damage is only at it's strongest if all 3 of them hit. If you miss with Strange it's a bigger penalty than it is with Peni since she never has to reload and can just hold the fire button.

Peni's self heal is sustained, not burst and it's only for herself. Of course it's not going to match that of an actually healer that is healing everyone else. 4k heals for a solo character is massive.

Slow and easy to avoid? What? It's on a 3 second cooldown and she's not trying to snipe with her stun. I understand you don't want to admit your wrong, but there are better ways of coping with it besides lying.

Every other tanks gets a 2nd health bar? Three Vanguards have shields to hide behind. and when they are using them they are not able to do damage like Peni can. Hulk's Banner form doesn't really count as a 2nd heath bar as dying and respawning is faster and better for the team compared to wasting time trying to do enough damage to transform back. Also I said I was fine with Peni healing, but it should only come from the placement drone and not the webs she can lay down every 3 seconds.
Last edited by Abomination713; Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:09pm
She's actually fine and doesn't need a nerf at all actually.
dragonoftime27 Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:
She's actually fine and doesn't need a nerf at all actually.
^agreed
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Strange has a slower rate of fire and slower projectiles and the damage is only at it's strongest if all 3 of them hit. If you miss with Strange it's a bigger penalty than it is with Peni since she never has to reload and can just hold the fire button.
None of this matters, because Strange does more DPS. Everything else is a skill issue, and you could also be complaining about Dagger having literal autoaim.
To top it off, Strange can headshot, which is even more damage that Peni doesn't have.
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Peni's self heal is sustained, not burst and it's only for herself. Of course it's not going to match that of an actually healer that is healing everyone else. 4k heals for a solo character is massive.
Originally posted by magnesium-based lifeform:
I don't think I've ever seen a Peni with more than 4k self healing at the end of a match. Meanwhile, I've soaked twice that damage with Venom's and Strange's shield alone.
Read my post again. Every other tank has better survivability.
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Slow and easy to avoid? What? It's on a 3 second cooldown and she's not trying to snipe with her stun. I understand you don't want to admit your wrong, but there are better ways of coping with it besides lying.
Actual skill issue.
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Every other tanks gets a 2nd health bar? Three Vanguards have shields to hide behind. and when they are using them they are not able to do damage like Peni can. Hulk's Banner form doesn't really count as a 2nd heath bar as dying and respawning is faster and better for the team compared to wasting time trying to do enough damage to transform back. Also I said I was fine with Peni healing, but it should only come from the placement drone and not the webs she can lay down every 3 seconds.
Captain and Strange can raise and lower their shield, to do damage and block heavy hits. You're never supposed to just keep it up and wait.
Magneto's is spammable and eats ALL damage projectiles.
Thor and Venom can just keep hitting you while their shield is up. Thor even gets it from hitting you.
All of those do more basic attach damage than Peni. Of all the things to get hung up over, the healing really is the weirdest thing I can think of.
Abomination713 Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by magnesium-based lifeform:
Thor and Venom can just keep hitting you while their shield is up. Thor even gets it from hitting you.
Nice of you to show once again you have zero idea what you are talking about. They don't have shields. Good thing your not in charge of balance changes.
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Nice of you to show once again you have zero idea what you are talking about. They don't have shields. Good thing your not in charge of balance changes.
"Temporary health" if you want to be a redditor about it. It's functionally the same thing and it's better than what Peni gets.
pr1mus Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:39pm 
Originally posted by 774:
She is not OP get real. If you genuinely think she is better than Thor you're kinda crazy. She's probably one of the weaker tanks that only gets value if you play heavy dive or leave her alone to do her thing.
Penni kind of craps on Thor (saying as someone who has 10 hours on Thor and 5 hours on Penni), i have a replay where i absolutely made it impossible for the enemy Thor to play because your CC is on such a low CD and you can create mine traps for him to engage on.
Abomination713 Dec 14, 2024 @ 2:40pm 
Originally posted by magnesium-based lifeform:
Originally posted by Abomination713:
Nice of you to show once again you have zero idea what you are talking about. They don't have shields. Good thing your not in charge of balance changes.
"Temporary health" if you want to be a redditor about it. It's functionally the same thing and it's better than what Peni gets.
Again, she has constant healing while the other tanks do not. Also Damaged Blocked is just how much damage you take. Has nothing to do with actual blocked damage. Being healed and taking damage still counts as blocked damage.
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Date Posted: Dec 14, 2024 @ 1:25pm
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