Aim assist for controllers are too strong

[Desert Leaf]

Now before you all starting hammering down all the clown awards and hate, please know that I have looked into several game recordings in my History within Marvel Rivals.

That's right, every game you play is recording locally on your machine and can be viewed through the HISTORY section in your PROFILE of Marvel Rivals. This replay feature allows you to spectate through the eyes of every player.

Now what I have observed is the players who use the controller are far less responsive to almost everything. They move in a linear fashion, they barely move the camera and yet there crosshairs are dead on target. This is because the aim assist is playing the game for them, and the person with the controller is only performing 30% of the actual game play.

In better words, controller users are not aiming, they are bringing the crosshair in proximation for the aim assist to take control. MANY controller users keep their crosshairs at a neutral position and move the Character body through strafing. When the cross hairs reach a proximity of a target, it snaps into a position that is most often the head. From Here, aiming is non-existent. From observations, the only time a controller user actually uses his/her hand to "AIM" is when a full throttle of rotation is required to escape or face a direction beyond 90 degrees. ( ! ) This full throttle is evidence that the controller users are strategically setting their aim sensitivity at a ridiculously high value that is impossible to manually aim with. ( ! ) They were never aiming in the first place!!!!!!!

As these observations are more than likely well-known and have become a standard in controller competitions in major titles, how is this considered fair to the manual technicality of the PC's Mouse.

PC users who are using the Mouse and Keyboard move fluidly and aim with an overshooting snap. Overshooting is when the player moves the mouse passed the target in human error. Human error does not exist on the controller because the controller only needs to perform 30% of the actual action to land on target. Controllers does not need to correct itself because it never overshoots.

I hear and read excuses about "get good" but does anyone comprehend the aim difference between mouse and controller besides how it is held in the hand? The MOUSE requires muscle memory of pixel measurements of monitor just to AIM (move) an inch. In order to aim at multiple targets and bounce the sights between them, one must physically remember the distance of where the mouse needs to be between the 2 targets. You can try this right now just by trying to click icons on you desktop. You need to remember the mouse position for all targets relative to the screen. The controller; however, does not require any of this.

The controller is a value. This value is then processed as an increment of rotation. This specifically means the movement of the stick does not relate to the distance of multiple targets. The controller's stick is incapable of distance. This major difference between mouse and analog stick are that they are two different animals. The controller does need a handicap, but not by snapping on target.

Aim assist should be an assist, not as a target seeker. This means the Aim Assist must require an input in the rotation stick in order to ease on to the target through scripted influential additions and subtractions to counter the Analog Stick. The aim assist must not stop on target, the USER must stop the input him/herself. This is not the case in Marvel Rivals, Call of Duty, and many more big titles. Currently, the rotation of the stick is not even necessary because the Target Seeking aim assist does 70% of the job for you. I have played games with zero aim assist back in the 90s and no on can shoot in those games. Instead, we strafe in them in hopes the crosshair lands on target. I can validate this behavior is still true today, but its now modified to seek targets.

------ Anyone in disagreement, I put this video right here so everyone can see. I know people think stuff like this does not exist and that everyone has perfect aiming skills cuz they "get good". Unfortunately, its just a whole conformed package of cheating that has been a world standard.

https://youtu.be/3BQzYh3aw4Q

###Last And Final Update###
Aim assist on PC works for some and not all, and usually bugs out in random occasions.

My original concern was heavily mistaking cheaters for aim assist. Over the hours of gameplay I have noted suspicious activity and concluded that 4 types of hacks were storming Season 0. As season 1 hit, all 4 hacks were absent. Not until 2 or 3 weeks into season 1, 2 of the 4 hacks have shown up.

Hacks:
1. See through walls - Not yet observed in season 1

2. Aim bot - Not yet observed in season 1

3. Auto Fire collider detection - season 0 and 1

4. Ping Attack (i dont know the correct term) - season 0 and 1.

[Desert Leaf]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by Kyo Tanaka:

Buddy, I don't know how to tell you... Aim assist works in this game. The problem is that it's absolutely dogwater, .

Wanna bet?
Here's a video proving it does not work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpeK6pyxbKk
Maxed out Strength and minimized Ease In and it does literally nothing to affect aiming.

Originally posted by Desert Leaf:

I have noticed that the PC's version of Aim assist moves projectiles to your target without affecting your crosshairs.

LMAO I prove this exact thing wrong in my video by shooting around the bot with Punisher.

You really dont read!! O_O

Your video has 100 Assist Window and 100 Assist Strength with 0 Ramp up for all types of projectiles. If only you actually read what i write.

[Prooby]

I have the game on console and PC and I can tell you on console the aim assist is non-existent. Console players in general are going to have a much harder time keeping up.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Desert Leaf:

Originally posted by Roland:

Wanna bet?
Here's a video proving it does not work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpeK6pyxbKk
Maxed out Strength and minimized Ease In and it does literally nothing to affect aiming.


LMAO I prove this exact thing wrong in my video by shooting around the bot with Punisher.

You really dont read!! O_O

Your video has 100 Assist Window and 100 Assist Strength with 0 Ramp up for all types of projectiles. If only you actually read what i write.

Because if you read the descriptions of the settings you would know that the settings i use in the video would make it the most obvious. Try reading what those settings do.
If it was working at all, those settings would show it for sure.

The Window is the area around the crosshair for it to activate that is at 100 because that would mean I'd only have to be close for you to definitely see it.

The Strength is how hard it pulls which is at 100 so it definitely is noticeable if it were working.

All of the Ease In settings are how fast or slow it pulls with 0 being the fastest and 100 being the slowest, so at 0 it should feel snappy and 100 should be a slow tug.

Read the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ settings.
I have nothing more to say on the matter because I've now provided video proof with a detailed explanation as to why you are wrong and PC aim assist does not work.

This thread was never going to change anything anyway and is completely and utterly pointless, but I tried to assuage your fears of boogeymen and things that don't exist and all you want to do is argue.
You can believe the proof right in-front of you that it does literally nothing, or you can believe some guy trying to get you to use their software. Personally, I'm done trying to help you see the truth.

[Desert Leaf]

Originally posted by Roland:

Originally posted by Desert Leaf:

You really dont read!! O_O

Your video has 100 Assist Window and 100 Assist Strength with 0 Ramp up for all types of projectiles. If only you actually read what i write.

Because if you read the descriptions of the settings you would know that the settings i use in the video would make it the most obvious. Try reading what those settings do.
If it was working at all, those settings would show it for sure.

The Window is the area around the crosshair for it to activate that is at 100 because that would mean I'd only have to be close for you to definitely see it.

The Strength is how hard it pulls which is at 100 so it definitely is noticeable if it were working.

All of the Ease In settings are how fast or slow it pulls with 0 being the fastest and 100 being the slowest, so at 0 it should feel snappy and 100 should be a slow tug.

Read the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ settings.
I have nothing more to say on the matter because I've now provided video proof with a detailed explanation as to why you are wrong and PC aim assist does not work.

This thread was never going to change anything anyway and is completely and utterly pointless, but I tried to assuage your fears of boogeymen and things that don't exist and all you want to do is argue.
You can believe the proof right in-front of you that it does literally nothing, or you can believe some guy trying to get you to use their software. Personally, I'm done trying to help you see the truth.

If you can read the settings, you would know having 100 on aim assist window is the wrong thing to do.

[[TTV]-PKKG2]

does 70% of the job for u ? have u ever played with a controller ? some games are just made for controller dont forget the reaction time and accuracy u can achive with a K&M ...

[AruKo]

Desert leaf is a degenerate that got ♥♥♥♥ on by controller players too much even tho they have they're whole fat ass arm to use. If you cannot compete then find a gym to hit or get better. Mnk should never be catered to when most players are on controller. That's like left handed ppl thinking everything should be made for them just bc they're in minority and need extra help. Victim mentality is a cancer especially in America and I'm diagnosing you w it right now. Whether you can understand this or not is beyond me, all I can hope is that you'll try your best but I know you won't. Controller players run video games. Just bc ur fav streamer and all ur goober friends plays on mnk doesn't mean it's practical for everyone. No game should be made w only mnk players in mind and marvel rivals has done just that. Controller players on console have to turn off crossplay to have fun, controller players on pc can't enjoy ranked almost at all. Idc if one or 2 controller players have made it diamond. we're talkin ab the majority of humans and we're not gonna pretend anything else just to be right ab something retarded. I am using the joints in one singular finger that isn't even actually considered a finger bc it has LESS moving parts. You use one fourth of your body and think I and most players don't need or deserve some kind of help to be able to simply compete. I don't need help being better I'll do that on my own, but I do need the field to be level in anything I compete in just like anybody tf else. having almost zero aim assist on marvel rivals no matter what my settings are isn't going to fly for most players for very long. It's a fun game at first but that catering to mnk dingleberry eaters stuff will kill this game soon. Idc how much fun you think you're having, your opinion is irrelevant, unwelcome and invalid today. this game will die if they don't make it playable for everyone and you will never reach the little potential you may have if you blame ur ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ aim on someone using nothing but one knuckle and one small joint to move and aim. Decide to not be a brain rot degen and think ab things more thoroughly before typing to type. You don't have a case here. You aren't going to argue and be correct. There is your ♥♥♥♥ opinions that nobody wants and then there are the facts I've laid out for you to read and comprehend. You will take this information in, you will reevaluate how you think ab this, and you're life will maybe get slightly better.

[cha0tic]

It's always going to be because it's crossplatform so just deal with it. The same thing has been going on with OW2 since launch and they never made it any weaker.

[fuber]

anyone who uses a controller is a pleb and needs all the assistance they can get to be remotely decent

[Algasaldi]

Aim assist for console player is like giving extra points in gym class to the cripple kid

[Pi57oLL]

Skill issue. KB&M will always beat controller no matter how much assistance is given.

[SpecNazz]

There is nothing to talk, there is no discussion. Negative review for a game and do not play. Its not a pc game, crossover is disaster made by fortnite. This game use fortnite assist and its not optimised for this game and is way too op. I understand that if PC players go vs console players without assist, they will always lose. HOW IS IT A SOLUTION TO GIVE CHEATS TO CONSOLE PLAYERS? it is cheats, "legit" cheats and people take it as real. Oh if u have adapter on your console to play with keyboard and mouse, you get free aim assist. And we are not allowed to opt out from playing with console players, no no. but they can opt out to not be matched against PC. Its just a spit in a face, how so many can't see it? I know, not many good games were created last year, but this... it is fast made crap on unreal engine and if they cash out money from battle pass, maybe they will fix it in the future but i doubt it. mby im to old to understand, mby this game is made for skibidi toilet head having audience. When you don't know the good in life, you can live with a sh*t forward, it shouldn't bother

[~ Requiem ~]

Originally posted by SpecNazz:

There is nothing to talk, there is no discussion. Negative review for a game and do not play. Its not a pc game, crossover is disaster made by fortnite. This game use fortnite assist and its not optimised for this game and is way too op. I understand that if PC players go vs console players without assist, they will always lose. HOW IS IT A SOLUTION TO GIVE CHEATS TO CONSOLE PLAYERS? it is cheats, "legit" cheats and people take it as real. Oh if u have adapter on your console to play with keyboard and mouse, you get free aim assist. And we are not allowed to opt out from playing with console players, no no. but they can opt out to not be matched against PC. Its just a spit in a face, how so many can't see it? I know, not many good games were created last year, but this... it is fast made crap on unreal engine and if they cash out money from battle pass, maybe they will fix it in the future but i doubt it. mby im to old to understand, mby this game is made for skibidi toilet head having audience. When you don't know the good in life, you can live with a sh*t forward, it shouldn't bother

+1

[crystalcastles]

skill issue
i headshot you with hela from spawn base you cry big time

[crystalcastles]

800 dpi 1.6 sens

[crystalcastles]

maybe you have mouse accel on? trying to move precisely between icons on desktop is so easy