Aim assist for controllers are too strong

[Desert Leaf]

Now before you all starting hammering down all the clown awards and hate, please know that I have looked into several game recordings in my History within Marvel Rivals.

That's right, every game you play is recording locally on your machine and can be viewed through the HISTORY section in your PROFILE of Marvel Rivals. This replay feature allows you to spectate through the eyes of every player.

Now what I have observed is the players who use the controller are far less responsive to almost everything. They move in a linear fashion, they barely move the camera and yet there crosshairs are dead on target. This is because the aim assist is playing the game for them, and the person with the controller is only performing 30% of the actual game play.

In better words, controller users are not aiming, they are bringing the crosshair in proximation for the aim assist to take control. MANY controller users keep their crosshairs at a neutral position and move the Character body through strafing. When the cross hairs reach a proximity of a target, it snaps into a position that is most often the head. From Here, aiming is non-existent. From observations, the only time a controller user actually uses his/her hand to "AIM" is when a full throttle of rotation is required to escape or face a direction beyond 90 degrees. ( ! ) This full throttle is evidence that the controller users are strategically setting their aim sensitivity at a ridiculously high value that is impossible to manually aim with. ( ! ) They were never aiming in the first place!!!!!!!

As these observations are more than likely well-known and have become a standard in controller competitions in major titles, how is this considered fair to the manual technicality of the PC's Mouse.

PC users who are using the Mouse and Keyboard move fluidly and aim with an overshooting snap. Overshooting is when the player moves the mouse passed the target in human error. Human error does not exist on the controller because the controller only needs to perform 30% of the actual action to land on target. Controllers does not need to correct itself because it never overshoots.

I hear and read excuses about "get good" but does anyone comprehend the aim difference between mouse and controller besides how it is held in the hand? The MOUSE requires muscle memory of pixel measurements of monitor just to AIM (move) an inch. In order to aim at multiple targets and bounce the sights between them, one must physically remember the distance of where the mouse needs to be between the 2 targets. You can try this right now just by trying to click icons on you desktop. You need to remember the mouse position for all targets relative to the screen. The controller; however, does not require any of this.

The controller is a value. This value is then processed as an increment of rotation. This specifically means the movement of the stick does not relate to the distance of multiple targets. The controller's stick is incapable of distance. This major difference between mouse and analog stick are that they are two different animals. The controller does need a handicap, but not by snapping on target.

Aim assist should be an assist, not as a target seeker. This means the Aim Assist must require an input in the rotation stick in order to ease on to the target through scripted influential additions and subtractions to counter the Analog Stick. The aim assist must not stop on target, the USER must stop the input him/herself. This is not the case in Marvel Rivals, Call of Duty, and many more big titles. Currently, the rotation of the stick is not even necessary because the Target Seeking aim assist does 70% of the job for you. I have played games with zero aim assist back in the 90s and no on can shoot in those games. Instead, we strafe in them in hopes the crosshair lands on target. I can validate this behavior is still true today, but its now modified to seek targets.

------ Anyone in disagreement, I put this video right here so everyone can see. I know people think stuff like this does not exist and that everyone has perfect aiming skills cuz they "get good". Unfortunately, its just a whole conformed package of cheating that has been a world standard.

https://youtu.be/3BQzYh3aw4Q

###Last And Final Update###
Aim assist on PC works for some and not all, and usually bugs out in random occasions.

My original concern was heavily mistaking cheaters for aim assist. Over the hours of gameplay I have noted suspicious activity and concluded that 4 types of hacks were storming Season 0. As season 1 hit, all 4 hacks were absent. Not until 2 or 3 weeks into season 1, 2 of the 4 hacks have shown up.

Hacks:
1. See through walls - Not yet observed in season 1

2. Aim bot - Not yet observed in season 1

3. Auto Fire collider detection - season 0 and 1

4. Ping Attack (i dont know the correct term) - season 0 and 1.

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I was on silver 2 for a while), and there is much more sticks users there. Maybe it is soft aim bots. There is not much diffrences between them. Why should anyone play with autoaimers. If they dont split, then It is not fun and worce playing. Just like almost every pvp game. Have fun heroic button pushers. For me droolling is more exciting then using controller in pvp.

[Raansu]

Originally posted by Desert Leaf:

Originally posted by xBALOx:

It doesn't work on PC controller lol

You didnt watch the video posted? There is aim assist on PC by faking it to be a console.

Aim assist is bugged right now. You can do this trick all you want, but you'll gain nothing from it because aim assist isn't working.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Desert Leaf:

Originally posted by xBALOx:

It doesn't work on PC controller lol

You didnt watch the video posted? There is aim assist on PC by faking it to be a console.

DID YOU watch the video?
He's not faking it as a console that's not a thing you can do. You can't just make the PC version pretend to be the console version.
The video is fake because he's trying to sell you software, I say again, stop being gullible.
Everyone is telling you aim assist is broken on PC because it is. Several of us use controllers on PC and we are telling you aim assist DOES NOT WORK.

It's very obvious you are scared and don't know what you're taking about. I have been PC gaming for 23+ years now and repairing them for almost as long. You cannot just make the PC versions of games pretend to be the console version, that is not a thing; especially if a game has anti cheat.

And even if he were making the keyboard and mouse pretend to be a controller, which is a thing you can do, the aim assist wouldn't help him on PC because the aim assist does not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ work. And even when they do fix the aim assist on PC, I guarantee you software that fakes a controller will eventually get picked up by the anti cheat and people using it will get banned.

Stop being scared of boogeymen and stop listening to people who have an agenda and listen to the people with experience, that have no reason to lie to you and don't have anything to sell you.

Or just plug in a controller and see for yourself that aim assist does not work on PC.

[Kerm]

Guys just report OP for advertising cheaty software & move on we dont need to explain that controler aim assist dont work on PC.

A potato will always be a potato.

[Desert Leaf]

Roland, it's clear you don't understand what is being represented in the video.

If you watch the video with an open mind (instead a bias one), you will release how locked-on his head shots are with starlord.

[Desert Leaf]

Originally posted by Kerm:

Guys just report OP for advertising cheaty software & move on we dont need to explain that controler aim assist dont work on PC.

A potato will always be a potato.

I'm not advertising. Unfortunately the act of providing evidence to a claim is giving publicity to material. --- Think about that.

[ZexxCrine]

i ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wish it was too strong. i can't hit ♥♥♥♥

[UfelosRed]

Originally posted by Desert Leaf:

https://youtu.be/3BQzYh3aw4Q?feature=shared

Wouldn't showing other people how to get aim assist in the game, be extremely counter productive?

[Pockets]

As someone that grew up on K&M: literally just get good

[Raansu]

Originally posted by Pockets:

As someone that grew up on K&M: literally just get good

No one cares you grew up on kbm. Controllers are outright unplayable without aim assist, its why it exists. Its existed since forever.

[Captain Blue]

It's great how you can call other players cheaters and you'll get banned yet this dude is advertising and promoting cheating... Still not banned.

[Captain Blue]

Originally posted by Raansu:

Originally posted by Pockets:

As someone that grew up on K&M: literally just get good

No one cares you grew up on kbm. Controllers are outright unplayable without aim assist, its why it exists. Its existed since forever.

You can't balance aim assist that's the reality... it's black and white... It either works or doesn't work

Either it can beat KB/M players or it can't...

It's about time game devs force KB/M or same inputs for ranked... So far I don't think I've seen console players in ranked so I think they have separate queue in ranked.

[Kerm]

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

Originally posted by Raansu:

No one cares you grew up on kbm. Controllers are outright unplayable without aim assist, its why it exists. Its existed since forever.

You can't balance aim assist that's the reality... it's black and white... It either works or doesn't work

Either it can beat KB/M players or it can't...

It's about time game devs force KB/M or same inputs for ranked... So far I don't think I've seen console players in ranked so I think they have separate queue in ranked.

it is already enforced in ranked that there is no crossplay.

Originally posted by Captain Blue:

It's great how you can call other players cheaters and you'll get banned yet this dude is advertising and promoting cheating... Still not banned.

I know said it earlier

[~ Requiem ~]

As always in every game where we PC players HAVE TO (can't disable crossplay) fight against legalized aimbot (Aim Assist) it's too impactful.

[Ascalon]

been using controller an i see virtually 0 aim assist i cant ♥♥♥♥ as a ranged character in this game