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Why is Winter Soldier not getting nerfed?
Why the ♥♥♥♥ is Bucky not getting nerfed yet!?
  • Everyone hates his Ult.
  • He gets way too many options for bonus HP.
  • Has strong damage
  • Has a degree of movement (though admittedly it's very short range)
  • Rarely has to reload
  • Can interrupt many Ults
  • Has 275 base hp
  • Has really good accuracy with seemingly no damage fall off.
  • Can push/pull players out of position and off the map. (and multiple characters at the same time if they are close together)
  • Can knock aerial characters to the ground, making them vulnerable to Peni mines and melee

Why is this character so broken and why is he about to go through 2 seasons without a nerf???
I know I am far from alone in thinking he needs it; I've encountered many that agree, so wtf?

(Note: obviously this thread is for speculating, as the devs will not see it)
Last edited by Roland's 2nd; Feb 18 @ 1:07pm
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Did winter soldier ult you AGAIN?
Rarely has to reload? Doesn't have have 3 shots before reload? Accuracy is skill dependent.
Like almost not a single thing here means anything cause most of the complaint requires skill or lack there of from the other players.
BenBeckman Feb 18 @ 12:04pm 
Melee character player detected.
He's supposed to be armed and dangerous, not armed and a mild bother.
Karnarax Feb 18 @ 12:17pm 
I think they should limit his AGAIN! count for a single ult. I don't mind his base kit.
Shuyin178 Feb 18 @ 12:34pm 
The only issue I have with Winter Soldier is the pull. It has too far a reach and can pull multiple enemies at a time which seems a little much.
Other than that, he's fine. Good supports can keep allies alive long enough for his ultimate to time out.
Originally posted by EmperorVolo:
Rarely has to reload? Doesn't have have 3 shots before reload?
You clearly have never tried him or even read his kit.
Using any of his 3 abilities reloads his gun and gives him armor/bonus hp at the same time.

Originally posted by BenBeckman:
Melee character player detected.
I have 6 Lords. Only 1 of them is melee.

Originally posted by Midnight Sky ✨🌙✨:
He's supposed to be armed and dangerous, not armed and a mild bother.
He outclasses literally every other Duelist with the amount of options he has.

Originally posted by Shuyin178:
The only issue I have with Winter Soldier is the pull. It has too far a reach and can pull multiple enemies at a time which seems a little much.
Other than that, he's fine. Good supports can keep allies alive long enough for his ultimate to time out.
I forgot about the multi-hit on the pull.

And if he lands headshots he outdamages most healing. He kills in 3 shots with headshots, and 4 without.
I still find this to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
kiwi Feb 26 @ 8:47am 
even in qp i can't run away from him, at this point i might just throw my game so i can de rank and play this game without having to fight a bucky every game
Veenix Feb 26 @ 8:56am 
His armor needs to be removed, that will balance the character out.
ksanathome Feb 26 @ 10:57am 
Because he is "Armed and Dangerous" and because "Again"
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagain
Because he sucks ass unless the person playing him has complete grasp of his kit and is actually being integrated into the team comp rather than going solo. Every Bucky in gold and lower rank is throwing. His ult kills less people than even a mid Wanda consistently, and against a similarly good-at-aiming Starlord he folds like a wet rag because he has a fraction of the mobility. Any dps is good if they're getting pocketed or 1v1ing a less good player.

Go MK and punish them for grouping up to bully with the hook. Or take their healers out first. Or go three healer and have everyone pocket a damage character. Play Starlord, Hela, Namor or hard focus him as Spider-man. Ask your team for help when he's out of position (he's slow as ♥♥♥♥ if he needs to run away). "He gets shields" so do Magic, Iron Fist and Wolverine, but for some reason the whole team will turn and focus on them while letting Bucky chip away at them for the whole game without being challenged or countered.
Permofrost Feb 28 @ 10:22am 
@LuciferRiding - Spider-Man can't really threaten Bucky without the venom teamup since he can reactively hook out of Spider-Man's web+E

Magik is also pretty rough to play into Bucky if he hooks in response to her exiting her portal.

Black Panther, Starlord, and Iron Fist can skill-check him.
Psylocke can skill-check him too, but it's really rough to pull it off unless you lower him from range because you outdps him at range.

His biggest weakness is *enemies at range*, since he does 45 damage per shot for 3 shots at 40 range before his long reload (i.e, 6 shots if he does 3 hits into E into 3 hits, because it's moronic to use the other two abilities in a shoot-out - where he gets outdps-ed by:

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CONDITION: 40+ meters

Tanks that outDPS him:
Dr Strange
Magneto

Healers that outDPS him:
All minus Raccoon

DPS that he outDPSes:
Human Torch (if HT uses exclusively left-click)
Punisher (if he uses shotgun)

Playing vs people out-ranging you is so miserable as Bucky that it prompts switching out of Bucky unless you have the rocket boon or are otherwise able to fix the issue by positioning differently / prioritizing tanks
I only hate winter because he's a pub stomper and my teams lose to him.
Outside of that he's good, He's annoying to 1v1 due to all the bonus HP
but there are characters who are stronger.
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Date Posted: Feb 18 @ 11:34am
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