Rocket Is Unusable In Diamond

[Borko]

tl;dr, Rocket becomes basically useless in Diamond and up because he has low hps, so he has trouble healing people through damage, can't heal anyone through burst damage, and he has the worst support ult in the game which also happens to not be an immortality ult, which is meta.

He carried me all the way here, he's my main and I love him, but he is unusable here.

Double or triple immortality ult supports is the meta, and he just doesn't fit. I've lost every single game where the enemy team had two immortality ult supports and we didn't. I end up having to swap to C&D or Loki most matches.

He also gets a TON of hate here in Diamond. I've had my own team ban Rocket because they didn't want me using him because they think he sucks so bad. If we lose, I am blamed 100% guaranteed if I'm on Rocket at the end, and if we win nobody cares and it had nothing to do with me.

People hate this character and honestly I agree now, he sucks. He's braindead enough to carry you up the ranks but he falls off hard and becomes almost useless. People glaze Rocket so hard for having "highest heals in the game" and "rez is soooo good though" and "lowest deaths and high mobility is MASSIVE value" but it just doesn't mean anything in practice.

Doesn't matter if I get 0 deaths, highest assists and highest heals in the match if I can't prevent anyone from dying. If anyone gets focus fired they die through my heals, if anyone gets ulted they die through my heals, if anyone takes burst damage they die through my heals. I can't save anyone's life. Everyone dies through Rocket's heals all the time because even though he gets high heals overall, his hps is actually extremely low and the lowest in the game.

Orbs bouncing around everywhere and constantly healing the entire team means nothing if they still die to anything because the healing is too slow.

A 40% damage increase ult means literally nothing when it can't make your team immortal, and is instantly countered by immortality ults or even just being shot at.

I think the reason he has such a high pickrate and winrate is because he is very good at low ranks where people have no idea what they're doing, but he is terrible the higher you go until he becomes borderline useless, a throw pick, and the worst support in the game.
But the VAST majority of the playerbase is in the lower ranks, so that's why he has such a high winrate and pickrate. It's not at all indicative of the character's strength, he's terrible, he's just good at lower ranks. He's not picked that much in higher ranks. I don't see him much here in Diamond at all.

It's like Moira in Overwatch, the higher you go the more useless she becomes and the less people pick her, but she has a fantastic pickrate and winrate. In Overwatch she has always been at the top of those charts, and she is currently at 4% pickrate and 50% winrate.
But she is almost never picked in higher ranks, she's just a noobstomp character and becomes useless as you get higher. It is absurdly rare to see a Moira in high ranks in Overwatch and everyone in the entire OW community agrees that Moira is useless in higher ranks.

This is Rocket, and this is what Rocket will always be. He's a noob character that becomes more and more garbage the higher you go, and requires you to be significantly more skilled than people playing other characters to get anywhere near the same value in higher ranks, but you will never have that same value anyway.
People that are GM+ Rocket mains would have gotten there faster, easier, and benefited their teams more playing literally any other support in the game.

Rocket sucks, and I'm tired of people acting like he doesn't. He's bad. It's not a skill issue, he's just bad. If you think otherwise then you are not looking at the bigger picture and still just stuck on "but rez is soooo good though!"

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

I'm interested in seeing a Rocket Set up more along the lines of this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3418032740

Where you get characters with large HP pools to swarm people and make it difficult to focus on one to quickly kill them. All while rocket heals them all at once making it even more difficult to kill them. The idea is to get around needing burst heals by making it difficult to focus down targets and being forced to alternate between the the tanks, at least until rockets BRB can be placed incase any of them do end up dying.

At first we had 5 tanks, but the one became a moon knight so that we could up the damage output and kill at least one of their teammates quickly to try and keep the numbers game in our favor.

The problem here is that the rocket player has to be exceptionally good at staying alive to keep all the tanks alive. Since killing him will effectively ensure that the tanks will die at this point. If you can keep people alive long enough to keep the BRB up, then you can technically get around not having an important ulti like luna for instance. Then having one that buffs damage output might actually be more of a blessing.

This is the stats results after the match ended:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3418032947

May want a Punisher to deal with characters like Ironman, since a lot of tanks have trouble with airborn characters. Not to mention Rocket + Punisher match up is pretty godly on it's own. The sixth character should honestly be picked based off situation if anything.

[Yoshinite]

NoDMGRocket is high up in Celestial rank.

[Borko]

Originally posted by Yosh:

NoDMGRocket is high up in Celestial rank.

I don't care, that doesn't invalidate anything that I said. In any hero shooter, you can get to the absolute highest ranks with the absolute worst characters in the game with enough time, grind, and skill, it doesn't mean the character is good.

I can hammer in nails using a rock but that doesn't mean a rock is a good hammer, it would be better, faster and easier to use an actual hammer.

NoDMGRocket is also a troll. He would have climbed faster and benefited his teams way more if he did damage. One thing Rocket does well is high damage up close, and he doesn't utilize that all so he can do a stupid meme and troll people.

[Steve]

Originally posted by Borko:

Originally posted by Yosh:

NoDMGRocket is high up in Celestial rank.

I don't care, that doesn't invalidate anything that I said.

Except it does?

[Borko]

Originally posted by Steve:

Originally posted by Borko:

I don't care, that doesn't invalidate anything that I said.

Except it does?

No. End of.

[Ponko]

Rocket is freelo stop listening to these garbage streamers and brat complainers in game, focus on your own play. Learn where to place your brbs and how to punish flankers and over extenders.

[zopf76 ☭]

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

This is the stats results after the match ended:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3418032947

First Class EOMM - Stomb - you can be proud of your Achievement, would like to see the result against Opponents and not versus Shooting gallery figures...

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

Originally posted by zopf76 ☭:

Originally posted by Kitt 🌟 Stargazer:

This is the stats results after the match ended:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3418032947

First Class EOMM - Stomb - you can be proud of your Achievement, would like to see the result against Opponents and not versus Shooting gallery figures... :lunar2019laughingpig:

Friend said he tried it against Grand Masters a while ago and had some decent success out of it as well. It's still a work in progress though.

[sl0thb0ss]

I'm GM2 with a 60% WR on Rocket, wym? Skill issue.

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Guy found his peak and is mad so blames character. Its a tale as old as games.

[MoniqueMiles]

I'm only in Plat 2 (completely solo q) but I just had a game where I played LIGHTS OUT. 2nd most healing in the entire match, buffed and kept my Punisher alive during his ult which pretty much secured our win and I STILL got accused of throwing because they wanted a Luna ult... My final stat line was 2/4/37 (1100 damage, 25k heals)

You can't win in this game even when you win.

Rocket is FINE.

[Teal V2]

Just rework him to fit into the game's support design.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2767030/discussions/0/578249790940269573/

Just do it, netease!

[Yoshinite]

Originally posted by Teal V2:

Just rework him to fit into the game's support design.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2767030/discussions/0/578249790940269573/

Just do it, netease!

Honestly i think this would be cool.

[Borko]

Originally posted by Teal V2:

Just rework him to fit into the game's support design.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2767030/discussions/0/578249790940269573/

Just do it, netease!

This is a neat idea.
I'm curious what people here will think of my idea for him, that came to me in a dream: https://imgur.com/a/UnSxtzN

Might be trash but I thought I'd share.

I've always wanted him to be more battle oriented, as he is the character that makes the most sense to be that way. He is the only pure support character in the game, when it fits his source material the least. Mantis of all things is a battle support who is mostly focused on damage, when Rocket is relegated to hiding in the backline and holding right click all match.

[PVT.Blueberry]

heal bot not working anymore thats weird, if only he had more than yellow bouncy balls to his kit........