Why are heck are all healers full DPS now?

[Oliver (Dead Girls)]

Now I see a lot of healers going full DPS with no healing.
Is this some new YouTube streamer challenge?????

Example is Rocket/Cloak going full DPS with 2.000 healing after 3 rounds, this happens a lot.
(I main healing in Plat/Diamond).

[RageMojo]

Not generally but context matters.

A lot of times people get tunnel vision, over extend chasing a kill, and so the healers are left to fight at the objective. If i had a $20 for every time someone chased a kill around 3 corners into the enemy spawn, then blamed the healers, i could buy a new man cave.

[glaphen]

Strategists are boosted trash, what do you expect, when you go against Rocket, Bucky, Punisher they go Adam/Cloak and Dagger and wonder why the tanks won't stop dying, like your combined HPS isn't even as strong as the Rocket's DPS with no head shots...

[Kitt 🌟 Stargazer]

I have been trying to push myself to get the most out of rocket. But I'll still prioritize healing over DPS if I feel that keeping my team alive is the better option to take.

[RawwkinGrimmie64]

Originally posted by glaphen:

Strategists are boosted trash, what do you expect, when you go against Rocket, Bucky, Punisher they go Adam/Cloak and Dagger and wonder why the tanks won't stop dying, like your combined HPS isn't even as strong as the Rocket's DPS with no head shots...

Absolutely love when hiveminds like you call Strategist Mains boosted. Why you go play a 3-3-0 or 2-4-0 ranked game and tell me how well you carried the game with zero healers.

[glaphen]

Originally posted by RawwkinGrimmie64:

Originally posted by glaphen:

Strategists are boosted trash, what do you expect, when you go against Rocket, Bucky, Punisher they go Adam/Cloak and Dagger and wonder why the tanks won't stop dying, like your combined HPS isn't even as strong as the Rocket's DPS with no head shots...

Absolutely love when hiveminds like you call Strategist Mains boosted. Why you go play a 3-3-0 or 2-4-0 ranked game and tell me how well you carried the game with zero healers.

They are incredibly boosted, they take no skill to get value from just healbotting using 5% of their kit, tanks need to know how to tank to get any value at all, DPS need to not suck or they are just negative value, strategists can healbot from the safest position with larger hitboxes hitting closer targets and get insane value, meanwhile even in GM half are so boosted they cannot even defend themselves from dives at all causing the majority of losses since they are practically silver or gold level boosted trash, a DPS main NEEDS to be good to climb or they just cause more losses than wins, a tank is entirely dependent on their team but if they don't know how to tank they aren't even doing anything causing easy losses. Any character can climb out of trash ranks by solo carrying, but strategists can healbot to do it the easiest as long as they don't get pressured by dive and destroy the match if the team doesn't babysit them.

[Tracker]

Look buddy if I'm out healing the other team's healers and getting more kills than you as a dps, it's not the supports that are the problem.

[RawwkinGrimmie64]

Originally posted by Oliver (Dead Girls):

Now I see all healers going full DPS with no healing. Is this some new YouTube streamer challenge?????
Whenever I am forced to go tank my 3 healers are full DPS.

I don't know what you've seen or if you're just exaggerating, but I do not see many DPS healers, saying this as a C&D main. Every good healer knows when to go for damage over healing, and it should never last longer than healing. The closest you'll get us a Mantis or Invisible Woman going 40 Damage/60 Healing, and that's based on stats, not time.

Last week I had a C&D Convergence game in extra rounds. On the last round, near the enemy team's checkpoint, Loki dropped some runes, so I switched to Cloak, Terror Caped 3 enemies, and they were all dead within seconds, as well as their C&D. While our Loki and Punisher died to a Namor ult in that time, the three second window of damage I did led to a 4v3 with one healer each. Enemy Luna ulted before I could, but still lost the fight because I ulted just as hers was about to end, leading to a 4v1 against Magik.

Strategists are not heal bots, and every good Strategist know who to prioritize with healing and when to take a chance with dealing damage.

[Timbermaw]

We healers are tired of dps doing no damage and decided to rise up and take matters into our own hands

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Tracker:

Look buddy if I'm out healing the other team's healers and getting more kills than you as a dps, it's not the supports that are the problem.

That is all meaningless nonsense, the scoreboard is completely useless in this game, half the stats come from meaningless slap fests when 2 strategists ult at the same time, your team is taking more damage needing more healing because you are doing no damage to pressure the enemy, maybe you have more healing because the dive was distracting them the whole time, maybe you have more damage because Cloak and Dagger ultimate is doing 180 DPS + Cloak DPS + wall to the enemy team standing in it with 2 ultimates going off.

[Phishfood]

Depends. Is there iron man/torch/storm on the other team? Are your dps psylocke and magik? Well then adam and/or luna gotta do something about those flying.

[Tracker]

Originally posted by glaphen:

Originally posted by Tracker:

Look buddy if I'm out healing the other team's healers and getting more kills than you as a dps, it's not the supports that are the problem.

That is all meaningless nonsense, the scoreboard is completely useless in this game, half the stats come from meaningless slap fests when 2 strategists ult at the same time, your team is taking more damage needing more healing because you are doing no damage to pressure the enemy, maybe you have more healing because the dive was distracting them the whole time, maybe you have more damage because Cloak and Dagger ultimate is doing 180 DPS + Cloak DPS + wall to the enemy team standing in it with 2 ultimates going off.

Whole point of dps is to do damage, if you're not putting enough out there and I'm making up for it, problem's still you dude. You can trash talk the scoreboard all you want but when your damage numbers are laughable compared to the other team what are you really bringing to the table?

[RawwkinGrimmie64]

Originally posted by glaphen:

Originally posted by RawwkinGrimmie64:

Absolutely love when hiveminds like you call Strategist Mains boosted. Why you go play a 3-3-0 or 2-4-0 ranked game and tell me how well you carried the game with zero healers.

They are incredibly boosted, they take no skill to get value from just healbotting using 5% of their kit, tanks need to know how to tank to get any value at all, DPS need to not suck or they are just negative value, strategists can healbot from the safest position with larger hitboxes hitting closer targets and get insane value, meanwhile even in GM half are so boosted they cannot even defend themselves from dives at all causing the majority of losses since they are practically silver or gold level boosted trash, a DPS main NEEDS to be good to climb or they just cause more losses than wins, a tank is entirely dependent on their team but if they don't know how to tank they aren't even doing anything causing easy losses. Any character can climb out of trash ranks by solo carrying, but strategists can healbot to do it the easiest as long as they don't get pressured by dive and destroy the match if the team doesn't babysit them.

You are completely contradicting the point OP is trying to make. Are Strategists boosted trash because they healbot, or are they trash because they play diet DPS? You can't have it both ways.

Perhaps the real answer is that you're tunneling on your bad luck with terrible teammates and not thinking critically about Strategists mains as a whole, let alone individual characters and their kits.

[JG2thend]

Ottr did 0 damage rocket last night no idea if that's people inspiration though

Originally posted by Timbermaw:

We healers are tired of dps doing no damage and decided to rise up and take matters into our own hands

Could well be true but I usually just switch off heals when the dps isn't doing well.

[glaphen]

Originally posted by Tracker:

Originally posted by glaphen:

That is all meaningless nonsense, the scoreboard is completely useless in this game, half the stats come from meaningless slap fests when 2 strategists ult at the same time, your team is taking more damage needing more healing because you are doing no damage to pressure the enemy, maybe you have more healing because the dive was distracting them the whole time, maybe you have more damage because Cloak and Dagger ultimate is doing 180 DPS + Cloak DPS + wall to the enemy team standing in it with 2 ultimates going off.

Whole point of dps is to do damage, if you're not putting enough out there and I'm making up for it, problem's still you dude. You can trash talk the scoreboard all you want but when your damage numbers are laughable compared to the other team what are you really bringing to the table?

Pointlessly damaging the tank being healed is only helping the enemy healers get ultimates unless they are trash going low HPS against high like I said in the first post. Maybe the dive didn't have high damage but he kept them distracted for so long that you trash hitting the tank were killing him which gives him no credit, maybe he died so he gets no KO credit even if he did 99% of the work on all 6 targets, there's so many problem with this games scoreboard it's unreal. Captain America's presence on the scoreboard in nonexistant, Iron Fist's block and 30% damage reduction aren't even on the damage blocked scoreboard, hitting people with bonus health generates no ultimate.

[glaphen]

Originally posted by RawwkinGrimmie64:

Originally posted by glaphen:

They are incredibly boosted, they take no skill to get value from just healbotting using 5% of their kit, tanks need to know how to tank to get any value at all, DPS need to not suck or they are just negative value, strategists can healbot from the safest position with larger hitboxes hitting closer targets and get insane value, meanwhile even in GM half are so boosted they cannot even defend themselves from dives at all causing the majority of losses since they are practically silver or gold level boosted trash, a DPS main NEEDS to be good to climb or they just cause more losses than wins, a tank is entirely dependent on their team but if they don't know how to tank they aren't even doing anything causing easy losses. Any character can climb out of trash ranks by solo carrying, but strategists can healbot to do it the easiest as long as they don't get pressured by dive and destroy the match if the team doesn't babysit them.

You are completely contradicting the point OP is trying to make. Are Strategists boosted trash because they healbot, or are they trash because they play diet DPS? You can't have it both ways.

Perhaps the real answer is that you're tunneling on your bad luck with terrible teammates and not thinking critically about Strategists mains as a whole, let alone individual characters and their kits.

They are boosted, healbots using 5% of their kit is a problem, as is trash going DPS healers when you need healing.