Battlepass progress is awful

[Heatnixx]

I was going to buy the battlepass, then I realized I gotta do asinine challenges daily to unlock what I want instead of just playing when I want.
Hard pass, lost a sale lol.

[KodatheWolf/Fox]

would be so much better if we could use some kind of Alt currency that's always Available to get via ways like challenges or leveling to actually buy the full pass for everything

[SweatySpaghetti]

Honestly ppl giving OP flak are sipping the cope hard. Everything I see about the battlepass hails it as not being FOMO but its 100% built on FOMO so people are straight up blind.

Helldivers 2 you can go back and buy the battle pass at any time. Here if you don't buy it when it's active, it's gone. That's pure FOMO.

My issue with the design is that it's slow dripfed content for something I've already paid for, and I play just long enough each day to get the missions done and turn the game off because its a slog. Even with the bonus I purchased it will take playing every day, the entire 90 days to clear the battlepass, if not more. I have a suspicion that the math doesn't math and you'll actually be pushed to spend more and convert the lattice otherwise you wouldn't recieve enough to unlock the content you've essentially already paid for. You get 4 missions a day plus the challenges, thing is most of these reward you with a spray or emote so the majority of the missions you're doing are not even rewarding you in a way that helps you complete the battlepass.

And no you can't just wait til the very end and do them all in one extended session, challenges have a timer of like 40 days or something I think. If you wait til the end you will almost certainly miss challenges/missions.

The design is 120% FOMO and designed to push daily return numbers rather than reward the player for playing the game, not to mention content they've paid for. So you can go back and finish a battle pass later? Using what, the daily dripfed resource of the next battlepass so you then can't complete that one without spending more money to convert lattice? Don't forget that what you earn is erased on the start of a new battlepass. People are just blind. Don't get me started on how converting it is a 1:1 ratio that does not equate to the value.

Their battle pass design is terribly predatory and designed in ten different ways to get you to spend more, anyone saying otherwise is coping hard.

However, taking literal DAYS to unlock just one tier of content you've already paid for will certainly cause numbers to drop as people naturally get bored of getting nothing for what they put in no matter what their opinion is. It's an issue that will solve itself as people gain common sense on the matter.

[Dylan]

Publicado originalmente por SweatySpaghetti:

Honestly ppl giving OP flak are sipping the cope hard. Everything I see about the battlepass hails it as not being FOMO but its 100% built on FOMO so people are straight up blind.

Helldivers 2 you can go back and buy the battle pass at any time. Here if you don't buy it when it's active, it's gone. That's pure FOMO.

My issue with the design is that it's slow dripfed content for something I've already paid for, and I play just long enough each day to get the missions done and turn the game off because its a slog. Even with the bonus I purchased it will take playing every day, the entire 90 days to clear the battlepass, if not more. I have a suspicion that the math doesn't math and you'll actually be pushed to spend more and convert the lattice otherwise you wouldn't recieve enough to unlock the content you've essentially already paid for. You get 4 missions a day plus the challenges, thing is most of these reward you with a spray or emote so the majority of the missions you're doing are not even rewarding you in a way that helps you complete the battlepass.

And no you can't just wait til the very end and do them all in one extended session, challenges have a timer of like 40 days or something I think. If you wait til the end you will almost certainly miss challenges/missions.

The design is 120% FOMO and designed to push daily return numbers rather than reward the player for playing the game, not to mention content they've paid for. So you can go back and finish a battle pass later? Using what, the daily dripfed resource of the next battlepass so you then can't complete that one without spending more money to convert lattice? Don't forget that what you earn is erased on the start of a new battlepass. People are just blind. Don't get me started on how converting it is a 1:1 ratio that does not equate to the value.

Their battle pass design is terribly predatory and designed in ten different ways to get you to spend more, anyone saying otherwise is coping hard.

However, taking literal DAYS to unlock just one tier of content you've already paid for will certainly cause numbers to drop as people naturally get bored of getting nothing for what they put in no matter what their opinion is. It's an issue that will solve itself as people gain common sense on the matter.

I totally agree with all of this. On concept, being able to buy a battlepass now and finish it in another season is objectively better than how some games like Fortnite or Overwatch do it. But it's really not that much better, because if you don't buy it NOW, you can't buy it LATER. It's 100% still FOMO, like you said. If that were the only thing they did, it would still be a great system. But the fact that the battlepass is mission based is SO weird in that it encourages logging in daily, playing for 30 minutes, then logging off. It reminds me a lot of gacha games! The fact there is literally zero reward for playing more than 30 mins is actually so crazy to me. Literally just make the battlepass follow a standard exp system and it become miles better. But nah, they make it (1). mission based, and (2). reset currency at season end... like... lol

[Vlad3163]

Battle passes are killing the gaming industry, not because of monetization reasons, but because it spawned a new generation of whiny ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like OP who think they have to be rewarded for playing a game instead of just having fun playing it.

[Kerm]

Publicado originalmente por Vlad3163:

Battle passes are killing the gaming industry, not because of monetization reasons, but because it spawned a new generation of whiny ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like OP who think they have to be rewarded for playing a game instead of just having fun playing it.

We could say the same about steam spawning a bunch of clueless potatoes like yourself

[sult4n4hmet]

In the beta, you were getting chrono tokens every 3 matches completed. I think they should add that to main game.

[JRS]

I don't care, i even bought the premium battlepass for 20$ instead of 10, you are broke

[Arc]

Same, I'm not paying to turn a game into a chore.

[IndianaJones]

Yeah, it is way too grindy.

Does anyone know if challenges stockpile if you don't complete them??

I'm planning to take a break for this game and maybe complete all challenges like in few weeks before season ends. Though I don't know if there is a limitation how many challenges can be opened at the same time. I think you can have 5 or 6 opened simultaneously, but I don't know if more.


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IMHO, they should give chrono-tokens (pink currency) just for playing the game. You complete a match +5 tokens, you win + extra 5 tokens, you join as backfill and complete match (even when lost match) +5 tokens.

[IndianaJones]

Publicado originalmente por sult4n4hmet:

In the beta, you were getting chrono tokens every 3 matches completed. I think they should add that to main game.

Do you recall specific value of it?

Publicado originalmente por JRS:

I don't care, i even bought the premium battlepass for 20$ instead of 10, you are broke

Being bold, while spending mommies money? Does she know about it?

[JRS]

keep crying brokie it's only 10$, if you played more with less crying your BP would be half completed by now

[IWMYIYS]

What happened to playing a game for the fun of it? The dailies and challenges are easily done in five minutes. If you think five minutes a day is a "chore," then I don't think you actually like the game. Go play something else.

[Arc]

What happened to playing a game for the fun of it? The dailies and challenges are optional, as is paying for the battle pass. If you need to buy into that to find an excuse to play the game, you don't actually like the game. Go play

[Kerm]

everybody just fully missing the point of what OP said like a bunch of 12 year old kids reading & misunderstanding.... OP said nowhere he didn't play for fun he said the challenges are asinine and that they lost a sale my guess is OP like the rest of the sane world would rather prefer unlocking the BP by playing i.e levelling up and exp & gaining token for said levels and exp, which fully makes sense considering the fact that if you do buy it you keep it for further seasons & in keeping it for further seasons if you do not finish one then how are you going to unlock the old BP while also playing to unlock the most recent one just by doing challenges when they only give very small amount of token, especially if tokens reset it is just a dumb mechanic and then in turn forces more cash out of your pocket for a 1:1 exchange on tokens if you want to actually unlock it so you pay $10 for the BP don't finish it then end up paying a extra $20 - $30 just to unlock the rest of that previously unfinished pass.

It had nothing to do with playing for fun in the sort or buying the pass just to play the game


Perfect example of herd mentality reading the comment above & following on from it when said comment above is just off the point.

[Shuyin178]

It only takes like 30 minutes of your time to do all of the daily challenges vs AI at the longest.
If you can't spare 30 minutes of your time you shouldn't play games period.