Marvel Rivals

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Booyah Feb 11 @ 2:24pm
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Marvel Rivals: A Masterclass in Mediocrity (and copying from Overwatch)
Alright, folks, gather around. It’s time for a little education. I know, I know—some of you might not be ready for this. You’re probably still basking in the glow of Marvel Rivals’ flashy trailers and the dopamine hit of seeing your favorite superheroes on screen. But let’s be real here: Marvel Rivals is, objectively speaking, a bad game. And before you start typing furiously in the comments, hear me out. I’m not here to insult anyone (though I can’t promise I won’t be a little condescending—it’s just who I am). I’m here to enlighten you. Because, let’s face it, someone has to.

First, let’s talk about the gameplay. Or should I say, the lack of gameplay. Marvel Rivals is, at its core, a shallow attempt at cashing in on the live-service model. It’s a hero shooter, sure, but it’s one that feels like it was cobbled together by a team that read a Wikipedia summary of what makes a good hero shooter and called it a day. The mechanics are uninspired, the abilities are derivative, and the balance is… well, let’s just say it’s about as balanced as a one-legged stool. But hey, I’m sure some of you enjoy the thrill of pressing the same three buttons over and over again while your screen fills with particle effects. Congratulations, you’ve found your game.

And don’t even get me started on the monetization. Oh, wait, I’m already started. Marvel Rivals is a textbook example of how to squeeze every last penny out of your player base without actually delivering a product worth paying for. The battle pass is a grindfest, the cosmetics are overpriced, and the game is clearly designed to exploit FOMO (that’s “fear of missing out” for those of you who aren’t as well-versed in gaming industry tactics as I am). But sure, keep telling yourself that spending $20 on a recolor of Spider-Man’s suit is a good use of your money. I’m sure the executives at Marvel are very grateful for your contribution.

Now, let’s talk about the story. Or, more accurately, the lack thereof. Marvel Rivals doesn’t even try to justify its existence with a compelling narrative. It’s just a bunch of heroes and villains thrown together in a generic arena because… reasons? I guess? I mean, I get it—writing is hard, and coming up with a coherent plot that ties all these characters together would require actual effort. But come on, is it too much to ask for a little world-building? A little context? Or are we just supposed to accept that Doctor Doom and Captain America are fighting because… well, because the game needs them to?

And let’s not forget the technical issues. The performance is inconsistent, the matchmaking is a mess, and the netcode is about as reliable as a paper umbrella in a hurricane. But hey, I’m sure some of you are perfectly content with rubberbanding across the map or getting disconnected mid-match. After all, who needs a smooth, stable gaming experience when you can have the thrill of wondering whether your next match will even load?

Look, I get it. Some of you are die-hard Marvel fans, and the idea of playing as your favorite characters is enough to blind you to the game’s glaring flaws. And that’s fine. Enjoy what you enjoy. But let’s not pretend that Marvel Rivals is anything more than a cash grab dressed up in spandex. It’s a game that prioritizes style over substance, profit over polish, and hype over heart. And if you can’t see that, well… maybe you’re not as discerning as I am. But hey, that’s why I’m here—to help you see the light.

So, go ahead. Keep playing Marvel Rivals. Keep defending it. Keep spending your hard-earned money on it. But just know that while you’re doing that, I’ll be over here, playing games that actually respect my time, intelligence, and wallet. Because, unlike some people, I know the difference between a good game and a bad one. And Marvel Rivals? It’s definitely the latter.

You’re welcome.
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Originally posted by 🎀Booyah🎀:
They certainly know what they're doing to retain players; that's the FOMO philosphy. a lot of gamers don't realize that basically every developer is employing these tactics. It should be illegal but the players are too distracted by the pretty shiny things to actually take a stand against it.

If you look into "Marvel Rivals", you'll notice it's a prime example of Psychology in Video games (Competition = EOMM + there is something wrong in the Rounds themselves). I feel like this Thing is a huge Testing ground (for Refining Algorithms).
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HakeemP Feb 11 @ 3:22pm 
I ran this post through 3 different AI detectors: Undetectable AI, Zero GPT, and GPT Zero. Undetectable AI claims the writing was 100% AI generated (even I think that's a bit extreme). Zero GTP claims 91.08% AI generated. And GPT Zero claims 100% AI generated again. Pretty funny lol
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HakeemP Feb 11 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by 🎀Booyah🎀:
Originally posted by zopf76 ☭:
A cheap and quickly cobbled together Cash cow that is supposed to Appeal and bring in loads of Money- what do you expect ?! :lunar2019grinningpig:
I expected a cheap and quickly cobbled together cash cow meant to milk players for money. I'm not surprised; just disgusted and a little confused, but at this point, I should really expect it from the gaming community at large.
If you hate the game so much why would you put 122 hours into it LOL!
Originally posted by HakeemP:
I ran this post through 3 different AI detectors: Undetectable AI, Zero GPT, and GPT Zero. Undetectable AI claims the writing was 100% AI generated (even I think that's a bit extreme). Zero GTP claims 91.08% AI generated. And GPT Zero Claims 100% AI generated again. Pretty funny lol

...do we know, that you are not an AI ?! :lunar2019crylaughingpig: :lunar2019laughingpig: :lunar2019crylaughingpig:
Originally posted by HakeemP:
I ran this post through 3 different AI detectors: Undetectable AI, Zero GPT, and GPT Zero. Undetectable AI claims the writing was 100% AI generated (even I think that's a bit extreme). Zero GTP claims 91.08% AI generated. And GPT Zero Claims 100% AI generated again. Pretty funny lol

What people will do for a few Steam Point Awards :D
HakeemP Feb 11 @ 3:29pm 
Originally posted by MajorJace:
Originally posted by HakeemP:
I ran this post through 3 different AI detectors: Undetectable AI, Zero GPT, and GPT Zero. Undetectable AI claims the writing was 100% AI generated (even I think that's a bit extreme). Zero GTP claims 91.08% AI generated. And GPT Zero Claims 100% AI generated again. Pretty funny lol

What people will do for a few Steam Point Awards :D
Making an AI-generated rage-bait essay claiming a game they have 122 hours on is "objectively bad" and how we're all stupid for liking it is a new low. OP is in desperate need of a life.
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Big Phantom Feb 11 @ 3:34pm 
i like this game because it has characters i care about
Booyah Feb 11 @ 3:39pm 
Originally posted by HakeemP:
and how we're all stupid for liking it

Things no one said
Booyah Feb 11 @ 3:40pm 
Originally posted by HakeemP:
Originally posted by 🎀Booyah🎀:
I expected a cheap and quickly cobbled together cash cow meant to milk players for money. I'm not surprised; just disgusted and a little confused, but at this point, I should really expect it from the gaming community at large.
If you hate the game so much why would you put 122 hours into it LOL!
Because I actually research the things that I discuss online, unlike most people.
HakeemP Feb 11 @ 4:19pm 
Originally posted by 🎀Booyah🎀:
Originally posted by HakeemP:
If you hate the game so much why would you put 122 hours into it LOL!
Because I actually research the things that I discuss online, unlike most people.
122 hours is more than a little "research" lmao that's more hours on it than all my friends who love the game have on it combined.

Originally posted by 🎀Booyah🎀:
Originally posted by HakeemP:
and how we're all stupid for liking it

Things no one said
Here's the entire last paragraph of the essay you AI-generated:

"So, go ahead. Keep playing Marvel Rivals. Keep defending it. Keep spending your hard-earned money on it. But just know that while you’re doing that, I’ll be over here, playing games that actually respect my time, intelligence, and wallet. Because, unlike some people, I know the difference between a good game and a bad one. And Marvel Rivals? It’s definitely the latter."

There's also a few other lines that were clearly meant to insult people who like the game for no reason:

"And before you start typing furiously in the comments, hear me out. I’m not here to insult anyone (though I can’t promise I won’t be a little condescending—it’s just who I am). I’m here to enlighten you. Because, let’s face it, someone has to."

"But hey, I’m sure some of you enjoy the thrill of pressing the same three buttons over and over again while your screen fills with particle effects. Congratulations, you’ve found your game."

"Look, I get it. Some of you are die-hard Marvel fans, and the idea of playing as your favorite characters is enough to blind you to the game’s glaring flaws. And that’s fine. Enjoy what you enjoy. But let’s not pretend that Marvel Rivals is anything more than a cash grab dressed up in spandex. It’s a game that prioritizes style over substance, profit over polish, and hype over heart. And if you can’t see that, well… maybe you’re not as discerning as I am. But hey, that’s why I’m here—to help you see the light."

Maybe because you AI-generated this entire post you just forgot about what was actually in the paragraphs (which is pretty embarrassing because after 122 hours of “research,” you still couldn’t even write it yourself?)
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Ranghar Feb 11 @ 5:10pm 
How is the season pass a grindfest? It's time gated, not a grind. Just wait until the end of the season and bust out all the challenges in a couple hours. As for the monetization in general...you get all the heroes for free. There is no incentive from a gameplay perspective to buy anything unless you really like looking at a certain skin every game.
Weaver42 Feb 11 @ 5:11pm 
The reason why I even am bothering with this is some of your points, had they been properly articulated and expanded on, could be used to create an actual argument for flaws in how the developers are handling things so far.

Ironically you relied more on evoking a reaction out of people reading than actually trying to convince anyone. Very much the same behavior you claimed the devs were going for when making this game.

Either way there is a TLDR at the bottom summarizing my takes on everything you've said in this post. It took a while with steam being really uncooperative right now

"uninspired/boring game play":
The "uninspired" part of this isn't even worth talking about. That being said I see stuff like this so often and until people recognize how stupid they and others are for trying to use this as an "objective" metric I will feel the need to spread common sense.
Pretty much anyone who wants to insult media these days throws around the idea of what they are talking about being derivative. Unfortunately after Shakespeare took to theater, most of what we made after will quickly be found to have elements that could easily be claimed to have been "cobbled together" from something that came before. Expecting a game dev hired by a larger company to create something as part of an already existing genre to be able to create something never before seen is just about creating a Schrodinger's cat situation where you can claim what is and isn't "good" to place the bar as high or low as you want for winning the argument.

"FOMO and Monetization":
Monetization is over exaggerated by a lot. Literally the worst aspects of the Marvel Rivals battle pass system is reflected in most other battle pass systems that occur in these games. Comparing it to the Overwatch 2 battle pass FOMO is outright unfair, because unlike Rivals OW2 took until season 10 to stop locking entire characters behind the battle pass (although you still have to "unlock" every hero from the previous Overwatch before you can get the new heroes for free). All of that isn't even getting into Overwatch and the lootbox system. Compared to all of that? Marvel Rivals sweeps easy.

It gets worse for OP's argument, because I haven't even gotten into how the "FOMO" in MR is LESS than the games they compare it to. OW2, and most other "battle passes" in games have a hard set time limit for how long you can even get what you paid for. Once you can't buy the battle pass? You also can't get the rewards you haven't earned yet for it either. You could literally buy the battle pass, and then get nothing for it because you bought it just before the season ended.

Marvel Rivals doesn't do that. The time limit is ONLY for purchasing the pass itself. Once you own it, you can level it up at whatever speed you want. I still have access to unlock things from the season 0 battle pass with the currency I gained during my time grinding for season 1.

Is it still FOMO? Sure, but complaining about it is like being angry at a man covered in mud for smelling- when right next to both of you is someone who crawled out of the sewer. You aren't really being honest about why you are targeting them in the first place- so listening to you on why it's bad is a moot point when anything you say is in bad faith.

Don't worry, these two next segments are the last stretch.

"Story":
Genuinely just incorrect. You get more of the story just by entering the game, unlocking more details about what is happening during that season as you play regardless of owning the battle pass. They tell you WHY and WHEN this started, along with the overall stakes involved, in the cut scene when you first boot up the game. There is even supplementary material that you can get to further focus on the "lore". Saying this game doesn't have a story is just admitting you probably turned it on for so many hours and left your computer alone while steam ticked up your "hours played" so you could deny anyone who called you out for obviously not actually playing the game.

It is literally, objectively, and obviously untrue everything that is said regarding the story. Doom isn't fighting captain America. disregarding the fact he isn't playable- He's "fighting" himself from the future after causing space and time to be destroyed. Every mission you are on has an in universe reason why you are on either side. There is a comic you can buy to get more story about what is happening in the game. I can't even compare the amount of misinformation you are spreading because the only relevant comparisons I could make would all relate to politics.

"Performance":
I can tell you WANT this game to fail and it's audience to not take you seriously by having this be last. It's the only REAL issue in all the load of junk you have said. Genuinely, if you had put this first I would have assumed you were talking in good faith- but leaving it last makes it seem like you need one ACTUAL criticism to try and have some ground on.

The issue with your argument is three-fold.

1: The devs have been making optimizations to the game, just slower and smaller in scope than what we are asking for right now.

2: The rarity and consistency of these performance hiccups occurring actually indicate that they seem more based on the computer itself than the program. Does the game need to be optimized to run on those systems? Yes, however the fact it can run well on MOST computers meaning that it isn't a fundamental flaw with the game itself- but how it runs on certain computers.

3: Other than initial waiting and loading into the match- actually playing in a match is smooth 95% of the time even for those i know who were having those technical issues. It was just a matter of getting into the game quickly that was a problem.

Overall I can say I have thoroughly tackled every "Truth" you've pushed about this game. All that's left is the summary.

TLDR: You are objectively wrong, you are outright lying when you aren't just arguing in bad faith with half truths, and your insistence on its flaws that do exist never land the mark on WHY they are problems indicating you are making your opinion based on second hand information rather than your own experiences- assuming you even took the time to interact with the game at all.
Originally posted by Fartin' Futa King:
92.43% AI GPT*, LMAO
Lots of people recently are calling posts out for using chatgpt. Im old and dont use any AI but would like to be able to spot it when i see it. Could you help me understand how people are noticing it? Is it just the way it talks?
Thogal76 Feb 11 @ 5:16pm 
let us not forget...before there was overwatch, there was DC and Marvel. the only thing overwatch did was give us a game to use charactors we loved.....excet at the time, overwatch didn't have heroes we knew or loved.....so who copied who again?
Wulfen Feb 11 @ 5:16pm 
Being a hater doesn't pay the bills.
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