WHY WAS IRON FIST HIDDEN NERFED?

[Ub3RLo_oTZFTW]

I come into the game for Season 1 to play some Iron fist ranked. I play my first competitive game thinking I have 3 seconds of Dragon Defense. It appears it's been hidden nerfed to 1 second. Where is the patch notes for this? Why nerf Iron fist without saying it? WHY NOT SAY SOMETHING? Am I missing something? I can't find anything on this nerf. Why is no one talking about this?

[Get Out]

No he wasn't. People just understand the game better and it's really not that hard to deal with a guy who runs in a straight line and punching you. Easiest headshots ever.

[BortekThePigeon]

Yeah it seems they nerfed his auto dash when he punches with the lock on range being hella reduced, air mobility was also reduced


He's quite garbage now ngl

[Smellycat]

just coz he cant delete whole teams in seconds anymore doesnt make him garbage it just raised the skill floor

[BortekThePigeon]

Originally posted by Smellycat:

just coz he cant delete whole teams in seconds anymore doesnt make him garbage it just raised the skill floor

he cannot survive long enough against people with good aim, has to waste his kick to get close to people and it's insanely easy to lose him now due to the auto dash on melee attacks

that's the definition of garbage

[Snaht]

Originally posted by BortekThePigeon:

Originally posted by Smellycat:

just coz he cant delete whole teams in seconds anymore doesnt make him garbage it just raised the skill floor

he cannot survive long enough against people with good aim, has to waste his kick to get close to people and it's insanely easy to lose him now due to the auto dash on melee attacks

that's the definition of garbage

nah, thats a hard cope for people who know they cant heal him, if you have enough skill to heal him you dont need a cope comment like this.

[BortekThePigeon]

Originally posted by Snaht:

Originally posted by BortekThePigeon:

he cannot survive long enough against people with good aim, has to waste his kick to get close to people and it's insanely easy to lose him now due to the auto dash on melee attacks

that's the definition of garbage

nah, thats a hard cope for people who know they cant heal him, if you have enough skill to heal him you dont need a cope comment like this.

define skill to heal him? if you try to E in a fight you stand there like a sore thumb only to be headshotted

if you try jumping away you get shot down unless you get lucky with tight corridors

if you try parrying that will only last you a few seconds till you get shredded or the enemy will just wait for your parry to stop then melt you instantly

[ダークネス⚡]

Originally posted by BortekThePigeon:

Originally posted by Snaht:

nah, thats a hard cope for people who know they cant heal him, if you have enough skill to heal him you dont need a cope comment like this.

define skill to heal him? if you try to E in a fight you stand there like a sore thumb only to be headshotted

if you try jumping away you get shot down unless you get lucky with tight corridors

if you try parrying that will only last you a few seconds till you get shredded or the enemy will just wait for your parry to stop then melt you instantly

so now he can't just go in and play alone in a team game? wow

[BortekThePigeon]

Originally posted by ダークネス⚡:

Originally posted by BortekThePigeon:

define skill to heal him? if you try to E in a fight you stand there like a sore thumb only to be headshotted

if you try jumping away you get shot down unless you get lucky with tight corridors

if you try parrying that will only last you a few seconds till you get shredded or the enemy will just wait for your parry to stop then melt you instantly

so now he can't just go in and play alone in a team game? wow

now he can barely play the game you mean lmao no point in being an iron fist if he can't sustain himself long enough as a melee character or keep his DPS output consistent due to the melee lock on range nerf

[Arthur Morrigan]

Originally posted by BortekThePigeon:

he cannot survive long enough against people with good aim

I always enjoy reading complaints that amount to “I have to try harder against good players”. As if simply playing the character should entitle them to victory.

[BortekThePigeon]

Originally posted by Tom Mulholland:

Originally posted by BortekThePigeon:

he cannot survive long enough against people with good aim

I always enjoy reading complaints that amount to “I have to try harder against good players”. As if simply playing the character should entitle them to victory.

If you take a minute to think about Iron Fist's kit you'd realise he becomes dogwater at high level play and a reason why nobody plays him there

Nothing about skill if a character's viability revolves around the opponents being inexperienced because otherwise his whole kit is debunked

[ダークネス⚡]

Originally posted by BortekThePigeon:

Originally posted by ダークネス⚡:

so now he can't just go in and play alone in a team game? wow

now he can barely play the game you mean lmao no point in being an iron fist if he can't sustain himself long enough as a melee character or keep his DPS output consistent due to the melee lock on range nerf

brother, you should not be able to mindlessly go in between 4 people and expect to survive. maybe learn to position and to pick your battles better. being melee should only matter to win close 1v1 encounters. if you want to go in the backline and kill both healers and a dps all by yourself you are delusional. you have healers btw maybe don't position yourself with 4 walls between you and your healers and you'll have all the sustain you need.

[OMEGA]

wasnt he hidden nerfed when people got somewhat decent at the game and learned how to counter him

[Ub3RLo_oTZFTW]

You guys are off topic. The discussions is that where is the patch notes for this nerf? It clearly has gone down from 3 seconds to 1 second. I have played him since the game has released. You dont have 3 seconds of Dragon Defense anymore. WHERE IS THE PATCH NOTES? WHY DIDNT THEY SAY ANYTHING? WHY THE HIDDEN NERF? WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS?

[Snaht]

Originally posted by Ub3RLo_oTZFTW:

You guys are off topic. The discussions is that where is the patch notes for this nerf? It clearly has gone down from 3 seconds to 1 second. I have played him since the game has released. You dont have 3 seconds of Dragon Defense anymore. WHERE IS THE PATCH NOTES? WHY DIDNT THEY SAY ANYTHING? WHY THE HIDDEN NERF? WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THIS?

We're on topic. Also, if that's not working for you, that's a bug that's not a hidden Nerf. You should report that to the proper places.

[Ub3RLo_oTZFTW]

You guys have clearly not played Iron Fist. I have and I know it's always been 3 seconds. The 1 second hidden nerf is deceptive and makes no sense not to tell players of the nerf.