Is the 3 Healer meta going to destroy this game like it did Overwatch?

[Kardo]

Overwatch literally had the same situation happen. It went to 3 healer meta into a 3 tank meta when anti heal became more prevalent. Do you guys think Marvel Rivals is doomed to go into the same direction?

[Queen Yuu The Reclusive]

No, it isn't.

They just need to tweak Luna, Cloak, and Mantis. Those three being required 2-ofs is the issue, not 3 healers.

[Get Out]

Healers are not really the problem. Their ultimates are the problem. There should be a massive rework on how their ultimates work.

[Sheiriff Woody]

They better not touch my mommy Sue

[Get Out]

Originally posted by Archon Oradon:

They better not touch my mommy Sue

They should tbh. Her ult should not heal at all. Make everyone invisible, slow down? Sure. Heal on top. HELLLL NAAAH....

[Kardo]

Originally posted by Get out.:

Healers are not really the problem. Their ultimates are the problem. There should be a massive rework on how their ultimates work.

what kind of massive rework would fix the problem in your opinion?

[XULEIRA]

just a nerf and thats all, dont be dramatic

[Kardo]

I think they should bring anti heal into the game with Blade, Human Torch and Doom

[Get Out]

Originally posted by Kardo:

Originally posted by Get out.:

Healers are not really the problem. Their ultimates are the problem. There should be a massive rework on how their ultimates work.

what kind of massive rework would fix the problem in your opinion?

Revert Cloak and Dagger's Season 0 ultimate. She should only have 3 dashes instead of 4 and it should last for a shorter time.
Sue Storm's ult should not heal at all. She makes everyone invis, and slow enemies down that is a massive utility by it's own. Super healing everyone on top is just too much.
Also, generally speaking there should be much slower ult charge for each healers.


The rest of them are kinda fine imho. They are not as oppressive as these 2. Additionally they should add a third ban for Diamond + lobbies to decrease brainrot metas.

[Alt]

Originally posted by Kardo:

Originally posted by Get out.:

Healers are not really the problem. Their ultimates are the problem. There should be a massive rework on how their ultimates work.

what kind of massive rework would fix the problem in your opinion?

In my opinion no rework needed. But. Less time on Luna's ULT. Slower ult charge and mb give back 3 dashes to cloak's ult instead of 4. When it comes to mantis i dont know for sure. Her ult is fine i guess, i would probably nerf her damage a bit. A very a skilled player could deal with her nearly the same amount of damage as proper DPS. And that is a bit sketchy, she should not be doing that considering her kit. Adam? Sure, his kit was designed to be off hand DPS.

[Kardo]

Do you guys think they should implement anti-heal or no?

[Alt]

Originally posted by Get out.:

Originally posted by Kardo:

what kind of massive rework would fix the problem in your opinion?

Revert Cloak and Dagger's Season 0 ultimate. She should only have 3 dashes instead of 4 and it should last for a shorter time.
Sue Storm's ult should not heal at all. She makes everyone invis, and slow enemies down that is a massive utility by it's own. Super healing everyone on top is just too much.


The rest of them are kinda fine imho. They are not as oppressive as these 2. Additionally they should add a third ban for Diamond + lobbies to decrease brainrot metas.

Sue's ult not healing and only slowing and giving invisibility would be very very weak. Unless it makes your own teammates invisible to enemy INSIDE ult too, then i could consider that. But lets be honest. Any AOE damage ULT will counter hers if it wasnt healing. Mb instead of those huge heals it should give additional health. Like 100 additional health to squishys and 200-250 to tanks.

[Get Out]

Originally posted by Kardo:

Do you guys think they should implement anti-heal or no?

A lot of people think, but I really hope they will not. It's just a cheap and unfun solution and puts way too much power to a character's hand. I think simply ultimates that makes you invincible or near invincible should just simply not exist.

[Alt]

Originally posted by Kardo:

Do you guys think they should implement anti-heal or no?

anti-heal will be bad for this game for one simple reason. It wasnt designed with anti-heal in mind. Any addition of anti-heal character would make so that every game should have one. No question. That will lead to that character to be in every single game. They would have redesign all Strategists so that half of them were anti-heal and another half regular heal.
Although, im not against having it in the form of ULT to some extend for new strategist/s.

[Get Out]

Originally posted by Alt:

Originally posted by Get out.:

Revert Cloak and Dagger's Season 0 ultimate. She should only have 3 dashes instead of 4 and it should last for a shorter time.
Sue Storm's ult should not heal at all. She makes everyone invis, and slow enemies down that is a massive utility by it's own. Super healing everyone on top is just too much.


The rest of them are kinda fine imho. They are not as oppressive as these 2. Additionally they should add a third ban for Diamond + lobbies to decrease brainrot metas.

Sue's ult not healing and only slowing and giving invisibility would be very very weak. Unless it makes your own teammates invisible to enemy INSIDE ult too, then i could consider that. But lets be honest. Any AOE damage ULT will counter hers if it was healing. Mb instead of those huge heals it should give additional health. Like 100 additional health to squishys and 200-250 to tanks.

I don't think so. turning a whole team invisible and slow enemies down by a lot is anything but weak. It's a utility tool that covers retreat. It shouldn't be a "I cannot die here zone"

[Alt]

Originally posted by Get out.:

Originally posted by Kardo:

Do you guys think they should implement anti-heal or no?

A lot of people think, but I really hope they will not. It's just a cheap and unfun solution and puts way too much power to a character's hand. I think simply ultimates that makes you invincible or near invincible should just simply not exist.

Problem with this sort of thinking is that we have too many DPS ults that just one shot or burst you of nowhere. Ironman, moon knight, Namor, Black Panther, etc. I think Overwatch is better in that regard, ULT's that deal huge damage there need proper plays to be effective. For example. Dvas team one shot ult rarely kills someone, it mostly used for area denial. But with some combination of other CC ults it could be very devastating. Same with Hanzo's ult. We need something like this.

Scarlet Witch is an example of good one shot ult. Easy to stop, until enemy has some brain and combines her ult with strange's portal, groot's ult or support ult(luna/cloak/sue)