Rocket is Parasitic Design

[Queen Yuu The Reclusive]

Before I get into the meat and potatoes of this, let me ask something [That most of you will either claim is a strawman, doesn’t make sense, or ‘JUST GET TO THE POINT!’]

Have you played League of Legends? Heroes of The Storm?

If you’ve played League of Legends, then you’ve likely met Yuumi. A champion that just attaches to another target player on your team and sits there, basically AFK, spamming their shield - originally a heal - and MAYBE pressing other buttons.

I used to play Yuumi, got Mastery 7, and know there is/was more to her kit then ‘Attach, press E, repeat from step 2’.

What about Heroes of The Storm? They have a character called Abathur. He can split push and do stuff in side lanes, but he’s well known for his ‘Hat’ for other teammates. With this hat, he can shield his allies, poke enemies, and buff his hatted ally with different minor buffs per talent earned.

Now, how do these two relate to Rocket? They rely ENTIRELY on their teammates. Abathur can pick talents to do more solo-laning focus, but generally speaking the weight is shifted to his team.

Rocket, as it stands, relies on his teammates to do the bulk of the work compared to other healers. Not only are his abilities MORE focused on helping his team above himself - a one-use revive, TEAM amplifier for damage, healing - but that’s basically ALL he has. The ever-present Zero-Damage Rockets [Of which, I’ve finally run into 3 of on my time and the games were awful.] only further pushes the idea that his design is parasitic, like that of Abathur and Yuumi.

Understand this: I am a support main, I play Loki and Mantis [Working on Lord for Cloak now!], I support 3 Healer meta, and I want Netease to watch/tweak the Terrible Trio of Luna, Cloak, and Mantis [In that order!]. However, Rocket is by far the worst of every single support. Loki can copy whatever ult [In high elo, you’re basically just copying Luna/Cloak/Mantis ult or flamed.] he wants, Invis Woman is a budget Terrible Trio member, Jeff can turn a team fight or single handedly turn a game with a good ult, and… Adam has his revive, I guess! Rocket has his one-use revive armor station, a TEAM amplifier, and his healing.

Jeff has his placeable heal bubbles, Invis Woman packs more utility, and Adam and have damage share across his team with chain heals and his own respectable burst damage. Rocket, however, is JUST a healbot for his team. Rocket RELIES on his team more than any other support.

Do I think Rocket is useless? Not necessarily, however, he isn’t a good healer. As I see it, he is below even Adam, arguably the worst healer in the game [At least for me. His ult is far too weak in the grand scheme of things.] yet I don’t think it’s Rocket’s fault. I think he was designed well, but people figured out the ‘best’ way of playing him. This best method just showing exactly what he is best as: A healbot that relies on his team to win a 5v6 that has little more than a bot on their team.

I genuinely hope he is reworked. I see hope for him. Give him an ability that throws out explosives, encourage a more aggressive playstyle that can reward him and his team in some fashion, or even just remove his alt-fire for healing and make it so every 5[?] shots it fires a healing orb with a bit of a bump to his damage numbers. SOMETHING.

I shouldn’t want a worse healer in his place when Luna, Cloak, or Mantis make it through bans. I should be HAPPY to see a Rocket, not questioning ‘Is this going to be an absolute slugfest game’ or not.

[Terotrous]

The only thing Rocket really needs is longer falloff. His gun actually does very high DPS, the problem is it does that DPS from extremely short range. Even then, there are absolutely times when Rocket should go on the offensive vs wounded targets and such. Due to his burst mobility, he's actually fairly decent at chasing a fleeing target and eliminating them.

[mozzarxlla]

ok but yuumi is awesome as is rocket- in fact i wish rockets groot team up was more like yuumi where you couldnt target him

[Queen Yuu The Reclusive]

Originally posted by mozzarxlla:

ok but yuumi is awesome as is rocket- in fact i wish rockets groot team up was more like yuumi where you couldnt target him

Considering the vast majority of League's playerbase hates her, that doesn't help this claim.

And, incorrect. One Mantis Sleep, Soldier Pull, etc. just pull the pair off.

[mozzarxlla]

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

Originally posted by mozzarxlla:

ok but yuumi is awesome as is rocket- in fact i wish rockets groot team up was more like yuumi where you couldnt target him

Considering the vast majority of League's playerbase hates her, that doesn't help this claim.

And, incorrect. One Mantis Sleep, Soldier Pull, etc. just pull the pair off.

yeah the majority of league playerbase are whiners just like this game who think the reason theyre hardstuck bronze is because of their teams- yuumi can be bs but not anymore than a lot of other champs, same way rocket is fine. Both shake up gameplay, also ur comment abt "incorrect" makes no sense cause I was saying i 'wish" thats how it was

[Queen Yuu The Reclusive]

Originally posted by mozzarxlla:

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

Considering the vast majority of League's playerbase hates her, that doesn't help this claim.

And, incorrect. One Mantis Sleep, Soldier Pull, etc. just pull the pair off.

yeah the majority of league playerbase are whiners just like this game who think the reason theyre hardstuck bronze is because of their teams- yuumi can be bs but not anymore than a lot of other champs, same way rocket is fine. Both shake up gameplay, also ur comment abt "incorrect" makes no sense cause I was saying i 'wish" thats how it was

Even pro players hate Yuumi. I became a 130k+ Mastery Shen to counter her. I fully understand the hate she deserves. She is a parasite that doesn't do anything without a competent team/team member.

Rocket is not fine. He is a parasite in design that has become nothing but a healbot. His gameplay and utility only care about his teammates being able to carry him. It's not healthy for the game, but even WORSE for him. His view will continue to tank because of his design, plus the Zero-Damage Rocket players.

[Queen Yuu The Reclusive]

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

Do I think Rocket is useless? Not necessarily, however, he isn’t a good healer. As I see it, he is below even Adam, arguably the worst healer in the game [At least for me. His ult is far too weak in the grand scheme of things.] yet I don’t think it’s Rocket’s fault. I think he was designed well, but people figured out the ‘best’ way of playing him. This best method just showing exactly what he is best as: A healbot that relies on his team to win a 5v6 that has little more than a bot on their team.

A well played rocket is extremely hard to kill. That's where the value is.

He can slip out of being killed by a lot of ultimates that other supports have to either pop their own ultimate or just die to. Like Storms. You shouldn't be dying much to ults like Storm with rocket when you've got two dashes and the ability to crawl up and around walls super fast. Hell, you can just climb a wall when you hear her ult and she can't do **** all about it.

An alive support is more valuable than a dead one 100% of the time, and that's why rocket can be a good pick.

But when a healer is only good because 'They're near-impossible to kill and they heal their team', is that REALLY healthy for your game and that character's image?

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

Do I think Rocket is useless? Not necessarily, however, he isn’t a good healer. As I see it, he is below even Adam, arguably the worst healer in the game [At least for me. His ult is far too weak in the grand scheme of things.] yet I don’t think it’s Rocket’s fault. I think he was designed well, but people figured out the ‘best’ way of playing him. This best method just showing exactly what he is best as: A healbot that relies on his team to win a 5v6 that has little more than a bot on their team.

A well played rocket is extremely hard to kill. That's where the value is.

He can slip out of being killed by a lot of ultimates that other supports have to either pop their own ultimate or just die to. Like Storms. You shouldn't be dying much to ults like Storm with rocket when you've got two dashes and the ability to crawl up and around walls super fast. Hell, you can just climb a wall when you hear her ult and she can't do **** all about it. And he can just be constantly throwing out heals for himself/others while repositioning, whereas a lot of other supports aren't continuing to heal while dealing with a diving/flanking threat.

An alive support is more valuable than a dead one 100% of the time, and that's why rocket can be a good pick.

[Smellycat]

its mainly his gun that just sux the range is to short and the bullets travel to slow its only realy effective at close range witch is exactly what ya wanna avoid in most cases.

[Phantom Limb]

Not sure what are you trying to imply but your usual luna, cnd and even adam to some point are healbots. Average CnD has no clue what their ult is good for so it's just spammed because shiny yeallow button is glowing. Typical Adam player revives you in the middle of nowhere just to be killed again. Luna is braindead enough to just stay behind and wait until ult is ready to be activated, but be thankful if she uses it in time instead of just save her life with it.
All healers have their flaws and playstyle of an average support player is not different between heroes. Loki might be the only special one and that's only because the way he supposed to be played. Everyone else is just the same.
Honestly, I'd rather have a good rocket in my team instead of brain rotted meta pick.

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

But when a healer is only good because 'They're near-impossible to kill and they heal their team', is that REALLY healthy for your game and that character's image?

I don't think rocket's kit is well designed, but not because he's a bad healer or a bad pick, which is what you insinuated in the part I quoted.

He's one of the highest pick and win rate healers in the game, even at high rankings. I still don't think his kit is well designed, though.

[RobAlca]

rocket is the strongest healer in the game,so extemely skill issue from op

[Queen Yuu The Reclusive]

Originally posted by Phantom Limb:

Not sure what are you trying to imply but your usual luna, cnd and even adam to some point are healbots. Average CnD has no clue what their ult is good for so it's just spammed because shiny yeallow button is glowing. Typical Adam player revives you in the middle of nowhere just to be killed again. Luna is braindead enough to just stay behind and wait until ult is ready to be activated, but be thankful if she uses it in time instead of just save her life with it.
All healers have their flaws and playstyle of an average support player is not different between heroes. Loki might be the only special one and that's only because the way he supposed to be played. Everyone else is just the same.
Honestly, I'd rather have a good rocket in my team instead of brain rotted meta pick.

Every healer, at the end of the day, is a healbot. The difference is what they bring outside that.

Rocket brings a parasitic design that is far worse than every other healer. Other healers either bring a form of CC, team amp that isn't JUST an ult, or strong utility that lasts throughout a fight.

Rocket has a 1-use revive every... 45 seconds, I think? And his ult. That's it. He lives and dies by a good team.

Originally posted by gachi is manly:

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

But when a healer is only good because 'They're near-impossible to kill and they heal their team', is that REALLY healthy for your game and that character's image?

I don't think rocket's kit is well designed, but not because he's a bad healer or a bad pick, which is what you insinuated in the part I quoted.

I said 'good healer' not 'good at healing'. A healer is more than their ability to heal, it's their entire kit that matters. Rocket's entire kit is just parasitic.

Originally posted by RobAlca:

rocket is the strongest healer in the game,so extemely skill issue from op

Is he strong because his kit is well rounded and provides utility to his team or is it because 'he's near impossible to kill and heals his team'.

If the former, I disagree. If it's the latter, that's parasitic design.

[Smellycat]

his strength lies in how easy he can heal hypermobile alies from range most of the ather healers need to snipe to heal there team and with how some heros move it can be a real chalenge.

[gachi is manly]

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

Is he strong because his kit is well rounded and provides utility to his team or is it because 'he's near impossible to kill and heals his team'.

If the former, I disagree. If it's the latter, that's parasitic design.

You're moving the goalposts here, though. You literally said he's the worst healer.

Originally posted by Queen Yuu The Reclusive:

Do I think Rocket is useless? Not necessarily, however, he isn’t a good healer. As I see it, he is below even Adam, arguably the worst healer in the game [At least for me. His ult is far too weak in the grand scheme of things.] yet I don’t think it’s Rocket’s fault. I think he was designed well, but people figured out the ‘best’ way of playing him. This best method just showing exactly what he is best as: A healbot that relies on his team to win a 5v6 that has little more than a bot on their team.

So which is it? Is he a good healer with a poorly designed (or parasitic) kit as you say, or is he just a bad healer?

You also say he's designed well, but like, no... He isn't. He's literally a healbot that's extremely hard to pin down and has a kit that lacks interactivity. His armor packs are actually a detriment, because nobody is going to grab them if you place it in a safe spot and they end up just giving away the location of it.

[Oodanna]

i default to Rocket for the Assist missions (because he seems to be the best healer for that) but he does not feel fun to play, he kinda just exists and watches his team do stuff while healing. part of that is no damage ability, and his m1 just feels slow and hard to hit for me

(other healers certainly have flaws but they arent the type of flaws that make them rather boring, like daggers heal m1s can be body blocked, but that doesnt make her boring to play)