How fight EOMM matchmaking ?

[Gromit]

If I noticed a rigged match (like enemy team got 30kills and our team 2kills) I just let them push and win faster. I guess there isn't other solution right ?

[Steve]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gromit:

If I noticed a rigged match (like enemy team got 30kills and our team 2kills) I just let them push and win faster. I guess there isn't other solution right ?

...the solution is to roll with your own team, instead of relying on drawing a winning team out of a hat each and every time you play.

[Sheiriff Woody]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von LightUpTheEyes:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von WerkRus:

Yeah, sure, that's why I'm sweating so much in ranked. Because there is a system that decides which team wins. Let me tell you a story: couple of days ago I was playing solo ranked and we smashed enemy team on the first map so hard my team decided to troll a little bit on the second one. In the end, we lost that game because of that. Please tell me that's EOMM that decided it.
EOMM became a scapegoat for people to cope with their losses. Problem is, you'll never get better with that mentality. It would always be something, some excuse why the game is rigged against you.

They admitted it lol. It's actually a thing.

They stated that it was in R&D. If you google it, Google even confirms that the MM used in MR is SBMM. EOMM was also used as an Escape Goat for Apex legends, because you had alot of Players saying EOMM was forcing them to lose, and Respawn came out and humiliated them as Bad players, and to Get Good pretty much. This 50/50 Win ratio was in alot of games like Destiny 2 PVP where only SBMM was used. Then TSBMM which was even more worse.

EOMM is still in R&D.

If you type in "What games use EOMM" all you get is Theory posts and Papers on its Development. If you add List, all you get is

"It discusses the EOMM model using variable inputs such as churn rate to optimize player retention, and discusses similarities to SBMM."

Over and Over again.

[Sheiriff Woody]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gromit:

If I noticed a rigged match (like enemy team got 30kills and our team 2kills) I just let them push and win faster. I guess there isn't other solution right ?

Cant Fight it, because its not EOMM, Its SBMM. lol

[Steve]

EOMM is just SBMM with extra steps. The extra steps revolve around attempts to quantify player behavior and match players with similar behavior patterns.

That's why you see teams full of ♥♥♥♥ters and quitters. Turns out if you put toxic people all on the same team, they're AMAZINGLY BAD AT IT!

Team games require team coordination. Toxic people don't know how to coordinate at ALL. No decent player wants that on their team; it's demoralizing and makes people quit. Toxicity in-match is a leading driver of playerbase shrinkage.

You can't stop toxic people from playing a F2P game. But you CAN, apparently, put them on the same team so that they have no choice but to screw themselves over instead of regular, well-behaved, team-oriented players.

(EDIT: For example, look at the original post here. "I didn't like the way things were going so I'm just supposed to give up and throw, right?"

OP was on the correct team. That's where OP was supposed to be. System, in that instance, worked.)

[WerkRus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von LightUpTheEyes:

They admitted it lol. It's actually a thing.

Who did? NetEase Games? Where did they admited it?

[WerkRus]

Btw fun fact our OP doesn't know. If enemy team has two tanks and your team focus them, instead of healers, amount of heal on the enemy team would be high af.

[Mr Boss]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von HighLanderPony:

Only one way to win: uninstall and play something better.

This

[Windfire]

But there really is a thing no ? Its not like that at all in League of Legend for exemple.

You do not go for 10 wins in a row or 10 losses in a row, when you are at the rank you are supposed to be, and more over you do not get matched with litteral afk brain people that often.

[dag]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Gromit:

I just let them push and win faster. I guess there isn't other solution right ?

First of all, don’t throw games because you suck. That’s ban-worthy.

As for a solution, play with friends. Your odds are much better when you have synergy and comms with your team.

[zopf76 ☭]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Sheiriff Woody:

If you type in "What games use EOMM" all you get is Theory posts and Papers on its Development.

What dishonorable and greedy Developer would admit, to cheat his (gullible and narrow-minded) Customers ?!

[zopf76 ☭]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Steve:

EOMM is just SBMM with extra steps.

How Wannabe-Players with absolutely Zero Skill have to keep telling themselves this...

[Steve]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von zopf76 ☭:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Steve:

EOMM is just SBMM with extra steps.

How Wannabe-Players with absolutely Zero Skill have to keep telling themselves this... :lunar2019crylaughingpig: :lunar2019laughingpig: :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

...and this'll be your typical "counterargument" from the little cult that tries to push the notion that the matchmaker is some Ultronesque AI hell-bent on knowing and caring who each player is and whether or not they win.

Reality is often harmful to this breed of player, because their whole argument exists as an attempt to insulate fragile egos from the truth: They're not as good as other games tried to make them look like they were, back in the era of participation trophies for all.

Toxic players are upset that regular players won't be able to carry them as much in a system like this, because the toxics are all put together and -- surprise, surprise -- can't work as a team and get their lunch money stolen.

[zopf76 ☭]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von dag:

First of all, don’t throw games

But :

Not everyone wants to be paired with a Bunch of absolutely Zero-Skill, headless EOMM-Lemmings.
A real Player would like to play the Game, but that's not possible = Waste of time and leave.

[Steve]

See what I mean? It's a good system. ^_^

[76561199705184617]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von HighLanderPony:

Only one way to win: uninstall and play something better.

uninstall and play something better , true true