EOMM doesn't exist

[Arc]

You're just bad

[Mushintaters]

No u

[Maniac]

the one thing doesnt exclude the other.
I mean its a team game right?
So the matchmaking should know how good i am and either match me with teammates which can balance out my weaknesses or enemys which are as bad as me so im sure EOMM does exist

[ritzmax72]

2.4 shekels have been transferred to your bank account.

[neuralnetwork]

Yup. This EOMM outrage frenzy is misplaced and has no basis in reality. Copium at best, something malicious at worst.

Or, at least it doesn't work the way it's portrayed. There's no system to artificially push your win rate to 50%. People have varied win rates and can have long win or loss streaks.

It's almost like.. you happen to win about half of the fights, 40-60% I'd think since there's 11 other people in every game so your performance naturally evens out in the long run. Your relative weight in your team counts for some ~16%, ~8% across the full player count. So essentially your value in any given fight is a touch shy from one tenth of the grand total.
This isn't a single player game where you control everything.

Be good with both gaming skills (reflexes, aim, snap decisions in the heat of the battle, positioning awareness etc) & meta knowledge (who to pick for optimal synergy, who performs good on a given map, who counters who etc) and your impact will shift the balance in your favour resulting in over 50% win rate. Be less stellar and you'll get to enjoy below 50% win rate.

[The One Above All]

Originally posted by neuralnetwork:

Yup. This EOMM outrage frenzy is misplaced and has no basis in reality. Copium at best, something malicious at worst.

Or, at least it doesn't work the way it's portrayed. There's no system to artificially push your win rate to 50%. People have varied win rates and can have long win or loss streaks.

It's almost like.. you happen to win about half of the fights, 40-60% I'd think since there's 11 other people in every game so your performance naturally evens out in the long run. Your relative weight in your team counts for some ~16%, ~8% across the full player count. So essentially your value in any given fight is a touch shy from one tenth of the grand total.
This isn't a single player game where you control everything.

Be good with both gaming skills (reflexes, aim, snap decisions in the heat of the battle, positioning awareness etc) & meta knowledge (who to pick for optimal synergy, who performs good on a given map, who counters who etc) and your impact will shift the balance in your favour resulting in over 50% win rate. Be less stellar and you'll get to enjoy below 50% win rate.

I totally agree with this, also with op. The majority of the EOMM whinners are gold hardstuck or/and ow2 simps

[VoiD]

It does, it just doesn't mean what the people looking for excuses for their ranks think it means

[Womens Deodorant]

Yes it does. I like the game, I play a lot. I like OW2, I used to play a lot. the signs of EOMM are overwhelming in both. The game is still fun regardless, but EOMM is present.

[Steve]

Originally posted by VoiD:

It does, it just doesn't mean what the people looking for excuses for their ranks think it means

I can't tell you how much effort has been expended trying to explain this one simple point. Even with an explanatory PDF that the individuals in question provide you (they found a paper on the concept and stopped reading it as soon as it got into math that was tougher than 2+2), there's very little hope on this front.

[Boink]

If you play with a stack EOMM doesn't apply to you. SOLO will always push you to fight for your rank.

[Arc]

I always play solo and I'm at 9 wins in a row.
Stop coping

[Zanaki]

EOMM is real, absolutely. 'BUT WIN STREAK LOSS STREAK' EOMM doesn't automatically make a game a loss or win, it just aims for it to be.

[JG2thend]

Originally posted by Steve:

Originally posted by VoiD:

It does, it just doesn't mean what the people looking for excuses for their ranks think it means

I can't tell you how much effort has been expended trying to explain this one simple point. Even with an explanatory PDF that the individuals in question provide you (they found a paper on the concept and stopped reading it as soon as it got into math that was tougher than 2+2), there's very little hope on this front.

You sure it wasn't the spirits manipulating the win rates of everyone

[Anomaly]

I do not think they would do anything like that in ranked, so in that regard I agree, people would investigate that fairly quick and it would be a huge deal. However, it is in quickplay with the evidence of bots being put into quickplay lobbies disguised as players.

Manipulating the outcome of a match to create an illusion of competition while ensuring a win/loss aligns with a core aspect of EOMM. The primary goal of EOMM is to manage player experiences by orchestrating wins and losses to maximize engagement and retention, which increases the chances that someone will spend money on the game. By secretly using bots designed to guarantee victory after a losing streak, the system demonstrates a deliberate effort to influence match outcomes and player emotions, which gives me little hope that other aspects of quickplay are not covertly manipulated in the same fashion.

[Ireheart]

they use optmatch. its not a new or hidden thing. AI collects all your data and tries to keep you playing. yes eomm is a thing. of course it is. its a ftp game. if you lose a game, just quit and come back later. Or switch to an alt account. or group up.

[RedWithTheObviouslyLongUsername]

Originally posted by neuralnetwork:

Yup. This EOMM outrage frenzy is misplaced and has no basis in reality. Copium at best, something malicious at worst.

Or, at least it doesn't work the way it's portrayed. There's no system to artificially push your win rate to 50%. People have varied win rates and can have long win or loss streaks.

It's almost like.. you happen to win about half of the fights, 40-60% I'd think since there's 11 other people in every game so your performance naturally evens out in the long run. Your relative weight in your team counts for some ~16%, ~8% across the full player count. So essentially your value in any given fight is a touch shy from one tenth of the grand total.
This isn't a single player game where you control everything.

Be good with both gaming skills (reflexes, aim, snap decisions in the heat of the battle, positioning awareness etc) & meta knowledge (who to pick for optimal synergy, who performs good on a given map, who counters who etc) and your impact will shift the balance in your favour resulting in over 50% win rate. Be less stellar and you'll get to enjoy below 50% win rate.

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