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Healers in this game are so bad
I'm used to the healing passive in Overwatch and healers in general being much better and healing when you need it, but here in Rivals the healers are generally HORRIBLE. So many times I'm literally standing behind or next to a healer with nearly zero HP, and they never turn around even slightly to check if someone needs a heal. They are tunneled visioned and will literally only heal what's right in front of them. I usually try to be near a health pack, but it's not always possible. Sometimes I go from being 2 steps right next to a healer to having to run around the map trying to find a health pack because they will not pan their camera around for even 1 second to check on teammates. It's 100% tunnel vision.

When I play healer, which is nearly half the time I play I mostly heal in front because that's where most teammates will be, but I also periodically move the camera around to the sides and behind in case a teammate needs healing, also keep an eye out for fliers in case they need heals and try to react as quick as possible to help them. It's not that hard to do, but most healers won't bother to heal anything that isn't directly in front of them, so I think this game needs to introduce passive healing like in Overwatch. We shouldn't have to waste so much time looking for health packs because the healers are so bad at their job.
Última edición por Gatita Tiernita; 13 ENE a las 21:46
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TooHigh2Die (Bloqueado) 13 ENE a las 21:35 
Its a free to play game, lots of kids under 10, just picking the "cute shark" to just swim around the map and have fun. I really wish they had a mode where you can have bot teammates as they always go 2-2-2 and hard bots at least play the objective.
Nokturnal 13 ENE a las 21:36 
Luna and Mantis already have passive healing, Mantis applies HoTs to teammates, Luna's buff heals the target whenever she heals anyone. Hell, even C&D can just drop an Orb on the ground and be like either get in it or not, not my problem lol.

Bad players will be bad at any role they play though, doesn't matter if it's DPS who just feed, can't land their shots and Tunnel vision. Tanks who push without healers or never play the objective or pressure the enemy team, Healers who don't counter-ult correctly or heal enough. All 3 can be bad just by not focusing enemy healers and defending their own healers. If the enemy Healers are dead 9 times out of 10 it means you instantly won the teamfight. It's sad how many players don't focus healers lol.
Publicado originalmente por Nokturnal:
If the enemy Healers are dead 9 times out of 10 it means you instantly won the teamfight. It's sad how many players don't focus healers lol.

It's funny how it's only ever the enemy team that targets healers, it feels like half the time my dps are content to just shoot the pocketed tank until I get dove by the BP or a Cap, or an Ironfist and inevitably die or get distracted fighting for my life as I see the entire frontline crumble without support.

I put the most hours into C&D, and while some matches I definitely did focus too much on the tanks, I do try to keep my head on a swivel, and check on the status of everyone nearby, and make sure the whole team is topped up, even if all I can spare are a few left-clicks before I get back to healing the tank.
Sotanaht 13 ENE a las 22:43 
Very often it's a justifiable tunnel vision. if I turn away from the tanks/main battle for the 2 seconds it takes to heal someone standing BEHIND me like an idiot, everyone I'm currently healing is going to die. Even just spinning to check if someone might be behind me is going to throw off my aim long enough for the tanks to explode. Hell they tend to die just in the time it takes to throw the Luna buff on a different target.
Chunky Cheese 13 ENE a las 22:45 
Cringe rage bait. F- for effort. F- for effect
SolutionS 13 ENE a las 22:50 
Use your ping, We gotta keep the front line up, if youre a flank and standing behind me, PING. Or maybe use voice comms?
Última edición por SolutionS; 13 ENE a las 22:50
Sotanaht 13 ENE a las 22:51 
Publicado originalmente por SolutionS:
Use your ping, We gotta keep the front line up, if youre a flank and standing behind me, PING. Or maybe use voice comms?
Or ideally try to get in front of me, maybe I can heal laser you and the tanks together.
Chaosolous 13 ENE a las 22:56 
Middle mouse to the left.
Krazy Wallet 13 ENE a las 22:57 
I will say, the pings for healing are much more subtle compared to OW. They come up as a blue icon I want to say with a subtle ping. I prefer they put a red hazard sign saying "YOU'RE TEAM GONNA DIE!!!". I imagine many of them get tunnel visioned and don't even notice that you're pinging.

A good healer will overcome that and have the situational awareness. A great healer will be looking around anyway watching out for flanks.



Publicado originalmente por Sotanaht:
Very often it's a justifiable tunnel vision. if I turn away from the tanks/main battle for the 2 seconds it takes to heal someone standing BEHIND me like an idiot, everyone I'm currently healing is going to die. Even just spinning to check if someone might be behind me is going to throw off my aim long enough for the tanks to explode. Hell they tend to die just in the time it takes to throw the Luna buff on a different target.

If you do quick glances between shots, you can check your flanks for enemies and low health allies, while getting your crosshair back on your tank before the next shot goes through. Takes some time to get used to but it's a skill worth practicing. I've spotted many black panthers and spidermen zooming in on me.
Publicado originalmente por Sotanaht:
Very often it's a justifiable tunnel vision. if I turn away from the tanks/main battle for the 2 seconds it takes to heal someone standing BEHIND me like an idiot, everyone I'm currently healing is going to die. Even just spinning to check if someone might be behind me is going to throw off my aim long enough for the tanks to explode. Hell they tend to die just in the time it takes to throw the Luna buff on a different target.
When you play snipers, fliers or long range characters very rarely are you going to be standing directly in front of the healer. It is your responsibility as the support player to keep your TEAM alive, not just the tank. There are many opportunities when you can pan the camera around 1 second to see who needs help. I do it all the time when I heal, you just have to be smart and know when you can peak around. There are also audible cues. When a teammate is hurt and needs healing their character will usually say something. Tunnel vision healers are just bad players.
Space DVAs69 13 ENE a las 23:05 
Maybe the healers are bots? Ive heard theres bots in a game if you lose too many matches in a row.
Última edición por Space DVAs69; 13 ENE a las 23:05
Dead 13 ENE a las 23:15 
Most of the time I often have to focus on Vanguards because they are the likelyhood to need that heals, always being targeted, but at the least I'm always aware if there's a Duelist needed heals, it's just a slight second to focus on them and go to Vanguard second later.

But it really boils down dependent on the hero you're choosing.

From my experience playing all Strategists,
Rocket has probably the easiest way to provide healing to everyone because of his Healing Orbs being an AoE that moves around and can bounce against a wall, so basically I could heal a Duelist out of my LoS.

Cloak and Dagger probably has alot of healing abilities compare to other Strategists, being Dagger, you can homing heals, put down an AoE Healing Over Time Orb for Vanguards (Which you can then check your surroundings if anyone else needs the heal), and a Healing Wall, I often alternate with Cloak aswell, with that Blinding Wall to disrupt enemy Vanguards or Strategists if they are on the backline, and the good Teammate Cloaking to prevent further damage.

Mantis is an odd one for me, being a Strategist she must have to land a critical hit (Headshots) if you want to efficiently to heal your teammates, I rarely use her buff ability on anyone else besides me, that Heal Over Time is okay, I should've give this to a Duelist because of the Damage Boost, also to be quite honest, I don't know how to play Mantis effectively yet.

Luna Snow is interesting, you need to "aim" properly when you're playing as her, and her "E" buff can give heals if you successfully healed someone, I often give this to our Duelist, they will not just get free heals out of nowhere but also gets a Damage Boost.

Adam Warlock is also another interesting Strategist, you'd need to be careful not to waste his heals, even though his heals is a chaining one, it is very limited, his other ability is also very powerful, chaining with others to create a damage taken shared buff with heal over time, from his playstyle alone, Adam Warlock is best to stick close with other teammates, he is probably bad at healing Duelists whose roles are diving.

Loki is a hard one for me, haven't gotten used to him yet, his primary to heal is an AoE, effectively you must target the floor since it explodes, but his powerful kit is the Healing Rune he would place, it makes you invincible when you're in the radius, but his playstyle is more how you use his clones, whatever you're doing with Loki, the Clone surely do the same, except moving of course lol. Also, if you want to be more of a healer as Loki, you can use your Ultimate to steal another Strategist and use their Ultimate. Honestly, he's probably a bit difficult to heal most Duelists I suppose.

Jeff, I rarely played the bugger, but I guess you could placed bubbles sporadically so any Duelist could get to it instead of searching a Health Pack? His water spit is good I guess, makes you wet, I dunno.

Invisible Woman? I have no proper input for her yet, her Primary goes through both allies and enemies, so you could go behind a Vanguard while aiming at the enemy from the back of your Vanguard, I don't know much about anything else though.
KIILLINIT 17 ENE a las 21:03 
The C&D meta is the worst because it's the only character a lot people apparently play and they still are bad at it. Like C&D lords are probably the worst players in this game. People just don't understand basic positioning.
I have no issues keeping my team alive as long as they don't over extend themselves or go do their own thing away from the rest of the team as Rocket...
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