anyone else just annyoed by the support ults

[Dio]

half the dam time its just "press q to make team unkillable" its not fun at all

[Dango]

yeah the run away and wait crap is getting old.

[Aurora]

its a counter to the "press q to make enemy team dead". Are you people really so braindead you only see things in one dimension?

[Dio]

Originally posted by Aurora:

its a counter to the "press q to make enemy team dead". Are you people really so braindead you only see things in one dimension?

you have to land said dps ult with good timing and can be easily countered while luna just says no the game is on pause one good thing going for overwatch is there balanced support ults

[HighLanderPony]

You can nuke Luna out of her ult with some stuff. Not sure on the details but it's doable.

The ult situation is def more nuanced than you made it out to be.

[Player Zer01]

i mean they are not invisible as there are several ults from people that out right kill healer ults.

[Krazy Wallet]

Having played Luna a good bit, the iron man ult is a hard counter, so is Thor. It's also healing over time rather than immunity. It's hard, but still possible, to simply focus fire her out of the ult if you have sniper dps.

It's also not like strategists have the only easy, high value ults. Psylocke comes to mind, Hela, Starlord, and Strange - they all press Q and typically find decent value unless they get counter-ulted.

[DoremianCleff]

What's important is how ult used.
Bad Luna or Mantis has no ult discipline and will ult even if ever so slightly threatened.
And know how you can spook them? Use one of the less valuable ults right into them and let them run it down. Without those powerful ultimates they will lose next fight and you get an advantage, just because you leveraged their lack of ult discipline.

I frankly don't care how strong Luna ult anymore. I just look for a ways to provoke her into using it, while telling my team not to use ults, untill she is done.

[Dio]

Originally posted by Krazy Wallet:

Having played Luna a good bit, the iron man ult is a hard counter, so is Thor. It's also healing over time rather than immunity. It's hard, but still possible, to simply focus fire her out of the ult if you have sniper dps.

It's also not like strategists have the only easy, high value ults. Psylocke comes to mind, Hela, Starlord, and Strange - they all press Q and typically find decent value unless they get counter-ulted.

how is thor a hard counter

[Wanderer]

Yeah we could really use something like anti heal.

[Krazy Wallet]

Originally posted by Dio:

Originally posted by Krazy Wallet:

Having played Luna a good bit, the iron man ult is a hard counter, so is Thor. It's also healing over time rather than immunity. It's hard, but still possible, to simply focus fire her out of the ult if you have sniper dps.

It's also not like strategists have the only easy, high value ults. Psylocke comes to mind, Hela, Starlord, and Strange - they all press Q and typically find decent value unless they get counter-ulted.

how is thor a hard counter

His ult can nearly 1-shot a 250hp player. Due to healing over time, you just need someone to be tickling Luna with Thor's fully charged slam to kill her. It also tends to scare away the enemy team out of Luna's radius

[Dio]

Originally posted by Krazy Wallet:

Originally posted by Dio:

how is thor a hard counter

His ult can nearly 1-shot a 250hp player. Due to healing over time, you just need someone to be tickling Luna with Thor's fully charged slam to kill her. It also tends to scare away the enemy team out of Luna's radius

yeah no

[melonLord]

She can be nuked out of it but yeah its my position that Luna Ult lasts a bit too long. It can be countered tho. Iron Man, Magneto, Thor, and Scarlet Witch Ults can delete her even if she ults iirc

[Nihil]

Well attack ults are "press q to kill everyone" and support ults are "press q to make everyone unkillable"
Except Cloack and dagger ult. That one is crap.
But this is the same situation what was in Overwatch. You had all those "1 klick and everyone dies" attacker ults, but then 1 of the supports had a "1 klick and everyone gets back again" ult, and people went nuts.

But i think healing is way too string in this game. It is kinda laughable that you can just pick one healer, for example Jeff and nullify all the damage the other entire attacker roaster is dealing.

[BillHicks]

Originally posted by Aurora:

its a counter to the "press q to make enemy team dead". Are you people really so braindead you only see things in one dimension?

Funny, I could say the same about you. How about ults be toned down in general? They are a crutch for developers and a balancing nightmare.

[Dio]

Originally posted by Nihil:

Well attack ults are "press q to kill everyone" and support ults are "press q to make everyone unkillable"
Except Cloack and dagger ult. That one is crap.
But this is the same situation what was in Overwatch. You had all those "1 klick and everyone dies" attacker ults, but then 1 of the supports had a "1 klick and everyone gets back again" ult, and people went nuts.

But i think healing is way too string in this game. It is kinda laughable that you can just pick one healer, for example Jeff and nullify all the damage the other entire attacker roaster is dealing.

but with overwatch you have to smart with ults its easy af to counter in that game this game just play moon knight and place the ult on the supports and there dead