Role lock isn't needed, maximum 2 supports is

[Westbrook]

Triple support is starting to become a crutch in this game. Triple tank? It sucks, have seen it MAYBE one time. Triple dps? It works but it's beatable, consistently too. Triple support is straight up cancer, especially if they are using some of the better combos of triple support, like mantis luna adam where two of the supports just have two lives and the other one is just best support in the game. Or better yet, they'll go 3 supports that have any of the many available "30 seconds of nothing dying" ults and they're just guaranteed to have at least ONE of them PER fight if they manage them even remotely comptently.

It's becoming more and more common, and more and more of an issue.

You just can't kill anything. The healing / sustain supports have is already so damn high even with just two, and then you add a third one. They lose out on some kill potential from a possible third dps or space creation from a 2nd tank but it doesn't matter, they'll just outlive you.

Team losing? Go triple support! It's awful.

You can't break through the backline because they just perma heal each other in a little triangle, and you can't go for anyone else because they are getting triple pocketed. It's mind numbingly stupid.

Either this game needs to straight up LIMIT the amount of supports to two per team, or healing numbers need to be cut in half when 3 supports are on a team. It is egregious.

[Zakil]

Skill issue tbh

[Westbrook]

Originally posted by Zakil:

Skill issue tbh

the classic skill issue reply from someone who probably hasn't even sniffed an elo relevant enough to the situation I'm speaking on. I'm happy you are able to beat, silver triple support comps. Either that or you just are a support player so... :shrug: I guess.

All I know is that in my elo, it's becoming more common, it's a free win 9/10 times, and the support players are literally yawning in chat by the end of it because it's JUST that easy.

[stuck in gold in Jerkmate ranked]

if your begging for limits to be added, then its kind of your own fault. You can also just go 3 supp if its that serious (its not).

[Westbrook]

Originally posted by yummers:

if your begging for limits to be added, then its kind of your own fault. You can also just go 3 supp if its that serious (its not).

????

A solution to a problem in the game should not be "lol just mirror" ??? what? LMFAO.

[Zanth]

Originally posted by Westbrook:

Originally posted by yummers:

if your begging for limits to be added, then its kind of your own fault. You can also just go 3 supp if its that serious (its not).

????

A solution to a problem in the game should not be "lol just mirror" ??? what? LMFAO.

No, just that if both sides can do it, but only one side does, it's not the fault of the winning team for using three strategists.

[Wanderer]

GIT GUD. GIT GUD. GIT GUD. GIT GUD.

It is a really annoying lineup. You should spend some time finding counters to that sort of gameplay (I think Black Panther/Hela are really good picks)

[Westbrook]

Originally posted by Zanth:

Originally posted by Westbrook:

????

A solution to a problem in the game should not be "lol just mirror" ??? what? LMFAO.

No, just that if both sides can do it, but only one side does, it's not the fault of the winning team for using three strategists.

Sure, we could ALSO abuse triple support, that doesn't make it less of a problem that needs solving.

[Zanth]

Originally posted by Westbrook:

Originally posted by Zanth:

No, just that if both sides can do it, but only one side does, it's not the fault of the winning team for using three strategists.

Sure, we could ALSO abuse triple support, that doesn't make it less of a problem that needs solving.

It's not abusing the system. It's allowed. Not liking it is completely different.

[Westbrook]

Originally posted by Zanth:

Originally posted by Westbrook:

Sure, we could ALSO abuse triple support, that doesn't make it less of a problem that needs solving.

It's not abusing the system. It's allowed. Not liking it is completely different.

Brotha. Abusing something broken is a phrase that has existed in gaming for god knows how long. It's not LITERALLY abusing something not intended, it's abusing the best thing for free wins.

[Null Winter]

Burst exists. Hawkeye can still drop any support instantly. Iron Man's ult is a hard counter to Luna's ult; she even politely groups everyone up for him! Jeff's ult can snatch up the "little healing triangles" you're talking about and ALSO counters "everyone group up!" ults like Luna's and Invisible Woman's. Winter Soldier thrives on both dive and isolation, and his ult, again, punishes people for grouping up with upfront damage and low HP execution. Squirrel Girl can drop many characters with back-to-back direct hits. Wolverine can abduct someone away from the group for his team to destroy.

If anything, the problem I see is that sustained damage dealers are weak compared to burst damage dealers with sustained healing being the dominant form. Punisher has just about enough ammo in his rifle to drop someone if they don't get healed; Hawkeye doesn't even need to reload and simply removes head after head.

[Detective Jonathan]

All of you make playing this game insufferable already.

[Zanth]

Originally posted by Westbrook:

Originally posted by Zanth:

It's not abusing the system. It's allowed. Not liking it is completely different.

Brotha. Abusing something broken is a phrase that has existed in gaming for god knows how long. It's not LITERALLY abusing something not intended, it's abusing the best thing for free wins.

And seeing as winning is the goal, and they are winning... If they're yawning after matches as you say, they'll get bored enough to move on to the next thing. It's the current winning strategy, and it's not exclusive. If you refuse to adopt it, that's on you. It still seems to be an issue of you simply not liking it.

[Westbrook]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

Burst exists. Hawkeye can still drop any support instantly. Iron Man's ult is a hard counter to Luna's ult; she even politely groups everyone up for him! Jeff's ult can snatch up the "little healing triangles" you're talking about and ALSO counters "everyone group up!" ults like Luna's and Invisible Woman's. Winter Soldier thrives on both dive and isolation, and his ult, again, punishes people for grouping up with upfront damage and low HP execution. Squirrel Girl can drop many characters with back-to-back direct hits. Wolverine can abduct someone away from the group for his team to destroy.

If anything, the problem I see is that sustained damage dealers are weak compared to burst damage dealers with sustained healing being the dominant form. Punisher has just about enough ammo in his rifle to drop someone if they don't get healed; Hawkeye doesn't even need to reload and simply removes head after head.

Hawkeye is perma banned still. Iron man is trash because hulk is also perma banned. Jeff is a liability at literally every single moment outside of when he pops ult. Winter soldier is good but that's one person, he alone isn't breaking apart a triple support comp. Wolverine isn't doing much against triple support because they'll just triple pocket whoever gets kidnapped. Squirrel girl is beyond mid.

The problem is a lot of the healing in this game is also burst just like the damage you are suggesting so unless it's a straight up one shot or hilariously quick two tap like hela, it just isn't going.

[Westbrook]

Originally posted by Zanth:

Originally posted by Westbrook:

Brotha. Abusing something broken is a phrase that has existed in gaming for god knows how long. It's not LITERALLY abusing something not intended, it's abusing the best thing for free wins.

And seeing as winning is the goal, and they are winning... If they're yawning after matches as you say, they'll get bored enough to move on to the next thing. It's the current winning strategy, and it's not exclusive. If you refuse to adopt it, that's on you. It still seems to be an issue of you simply not liking it.

Dawg your argument makes literally no sense. This idiotic idea of "This thing is broken but you are the one at fault here for not also just abusing this broken thing"

That's NOT the point of the topic. The point of the topic is that this broken thing, shouldn't exist.

[Zanth]

Originally posted by Westbrook:

Originally posted by Zanth:

And seeing as winning is the goal, and they are winning... If they're yawning after matches as you say, they'll get bored enough to move on to the next thing. It's the current winning strategy, and it's not exclusive. If you refuse to adopt it, that's on you. It still seems to be an issue of you simply not liking it.

Dawg your argument makes literally no sense. This idiotic idea of "This thing is broken but you are the one at fault here for not also just abusing this broken thing"

That's NOT the point of the topic. The point of the topic is that this broken thing, shouldn't exist.

No, your complaint makes no sense. You just don't like it. It's as simple as that. You want the game changed to benefit your play convention.